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Old 01-11-2019, 01:54 PM   #1
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Area carpets over wood floors

I'm in the process of having area carpets cut and edge bound for high traffic areas in my boat. The floors are finished hardwood. In one area I will need some form of pad to keep the rug from moving. The rest, I'm not concerned about movement, but am concerned about whether I need anything between the finished floor and the typical rough carpet bottom. My previous attempt with area rugs proved to be a big PIA. The rugs had a rubberized bottom that adhered to the floor and separated from the carpet. Hours of careful shaving with a plastic razor blade.

Trying to decide what to use for the "no slide" on the one carpet and whether to put anything under the rest. Thoughts?

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We use "standard" high quality rug pads under our area rugs and it works well.


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Use high quality rug pads for sure or nothing. Some of the cheaper ones will transfer the pattern of the pad to the floor and it won't come off, it's almost like it's etched in.
We ruined some expensive tile in the house and I bet it would've ruined hardwood as well .
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:09 PM   #4
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Use high quality rug pads for sure or nothing. Some of the cheaper ones will transfer the pattern of the pad to the floor and it won't come off, it's almost like it's etched in.
We ruined some expensive tile in the house and I bet it would've ruined hardwood as well .
So how do you know which pads are high quality?

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Another option is to fit the rugs to the space so tightly they can't move around. My carpets runners are scratching the finish on the hardwood and annoyingly slip in heavy seas while I am walking on them...
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So how do you know which pads are high quality?

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The last we bought at a nice rug store . The others came from Walmart. I don’t remember what the difference was other than price but we explained what happened before and they said cheap pad . Maybe the guy that’s doing your border can send you in right direction. It could’ve been that the pad just attached itself to our Mexican tiles because the weren’t sealed properly. But I still wouldn’t take a chance .
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Ok Ted I just looked it up. Some of the cheaper pads are made with plastics that are made with a chemical called phthalates. This chemical can gas off . It also can be used as dissolving agent .This is just what I read from RUGPAD USA . They say natural rubber is the best choice for rug pad. And you know the internet doesn’t lie.
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If any of these rugs are going to be covering an engine hatch an acoustic carpet underlay would give your the abrasion protection you want, a plush feel underfoot, and reduce noise that may leak out around any hatches.
If your hatches are leaking noise you could get a 5-10 db reduction in noise

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How about just put some scoot guard under the rug?
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Maybe the guy thatís doing your border can send you in right direction.
Ted I think Marty is on the right track asking your border guy. His next reply had very good information as well.

In my flooring business it is not uncommon to have to sand heavily in a refinish job where a pad has printed through. Sometimes you can still see the shadow of the pad. I am going look into RUGPAD USA.

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So how do you know which pads are high quality?

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What I have been using are the pads made with what seem like chopped up pieces of foam that are then glued together. The higher quality ones of that type are quite "rubbery" on one side. Put that side down. I have never had wear problems with this type of pad.

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I’ve had good luck with this style (various brands):
https://www.amazon.com/DoubleCheck-P...d+for+area+rug
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We have six area rugs with two types of padding; the felt type and the type Padeed mentions. The felt type is good but with vibration and walking on it, it creeps across the floor and it does hold a stain if it gets wet. The double check is ok. If it starts to loose itís holding, Lena washes it. We replace it frequently enough that we havenít had serious issues with it sticking to the floor.

We were on another memberís boat recently and the same subject came up. They recommended Durahold Rug Pads. Expensive but they said it was the best. Maybe heíll pipe in. We may try it under a ďtestĒ rug to see if we have the same success.

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So is there a general opinion on putting pads under carpet to protect the floor? There are several spots where it's wall to wall and won't move.

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Our boat has always had an area rug of some sort. We currently have a “wall-to-wall” carpet in the main area of the saloon that’s finished on the edges. We do not have a non-slip type of material under the carpet. The carpet doesn’t move. It helps that our table is bolted to the sole through the carpet. The finish on the parquet hardwood sole is undamaged.

In our case, having a pad under the carpet would only be to add padding and softness to the feel under our feet.
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...hereís another view showing the uncovered parquet floor.
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We use a couple real wool orientals. They don't scratch the floor, feel good underfoot and the sliding is not often a problem.
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WE have used bathroom carpeting for winter rugs in the NE.

These can be cut to fit with scissors , don't harm the cabin sole and can machine washed to remove winter mud salt etc. Some insulation value.

You may kick of your winter foot wear getting "home" , but guests seldom will bother.

So a midwinter wash or two is a great concept.
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I've used the type that comes on a roll from big box stores for a runner. Rubber one side stick on the other. Probably not useful for large areas but if most is tight fit and you only need it in a smaller area like entry etc it might.
In tight fitting areas
I have sometimes skipped binding and used hot melt glue around edges on back side to prevent unraveling. Lay a bead at edge and smooth w a narrow putty knife. Worked well.
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So is there a general opinion on putting pads under carpet to protect the floor? There are several spots where it's wall to wall and won't move.

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Not required IMO.
Our rugs get rolled up and shaken outside frequently, so I would know if there was any wear of the varnished surface they protect. The genuine handmade Turkish rugs we bought on a trip to Turkey have no backing and the wool is gentle on the varnish. The cheap ones we put by the door often have a latex backing that disintegrates within a couple of years, but doesn't hurt the varnish below. The backing acts as a non-slip.
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