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09-12-2015, 11:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
Give up on indoor heads altogether, squat off the pulpit and use the anchor wash hose as a bidet. .
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I read this 5 minutes ago and am still laughing!
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09-12-2015, 11:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
Give up on indoor heads altogether, squat off the pulpit and use the anchor wash hose as a bidet.
It would be legal even in no dump zones.
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Wifey B: I think there could like possibly be some overzealous conservatives who might question the legality of your open butt to the world practice if within viewing distance.
Reminds me of the ones who got out their binoculars and pulled closer to our dock, ultimately up to it, so they could see topless swimmers better to then complain about.
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09-12-2015, 11:47 AM
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Actually the direct-from-butt-to-ocean is still legally considered a discharge if you want to be technical about it.
We've spent a lot of time in Mx, Central America and SA and haven't found the "no TP in toilet" places yet, and I've been to some funky spots, though obviously not all of them.
As Peggy says, unless you have some really poorly maintained head, there is zero reason not to add TP to the load it is already processing.
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09-12-2015, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caltexflanc
Actually the direct-from-butt-to-ocean is still legally considered a discharge if you want to be technical about it.
We've spent a lot of time in Mx, Central America and SA and haven't found the "no TP in toilet" places yet, and I've been to some funky spots, though obviously not all of them.
As Peggy says, unless you have some really poorly maintained head, there is zero reason not to add TP to the load it is already processing.
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Based on how some on this forum claim to handle their used TP, stepping on their boat is like stepping into a third world country.
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09-12-2015, 12:26 PM
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This is important stuff Peggy!!!
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09-12-2015, 01:01 PM
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My toilet flushes just about anything I put in it unless I put in too much, then it plugs where the hose goes over the discharge fitting. What I worry about is the paper sitting in the holding tank and compacting at the bottom and plugging up the macerator pump.
I don't suppose that's a problem if you suck it out at a vacuum station, but I don't have very many of those available so I mostly run offshore to discharge. Thanks for the tip on the Scott's!
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09-12-2015, 01:44 PM
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Where does one find a toilet seat bidet combo? The admiral definitely wants one. The bidet at our house is used extensively. The Europeans have so many good ideas that don't generally find their way to the US much.
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09-12-2015, 01:50 PM
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Wifey B: I don't get why so many feel there's a problem with tp. I find the problem is with total load so may need to double flush. But that's the same you run into on land with some of these water conservation toilets. I'm sorry but who thought toilets were the place to conserve water like that. Now the deal that does work is having two flush options. You get a small flush for #1 and a big flush for #2. Now that makes sense. That seems to me the same key on boats that it's really just using enough water. Guess I just never knew so many problems as we just use them normal.
And if you're a big tp user then flush the poop, then do the tp and flush it.
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09-12-2015, 02:01 PM
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City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
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Depends?
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09-12-2015, 02:02 PM
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I agree Wifey B
Flush to keep loading appropriate.
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09-12-2015, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
Based on how some on this forum claim to handle their used TP, stepping on their boat is like stepping into a third world country.
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I was thinking the same thing and we travel to 3rd world countries a good bit I do not want my boat like that yuck
And BTW
You guys a cracking me up
when we bought our boat the first thing my wife bought was Peggy's book
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09-12-2015, 03:23 PM
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Scraping Paint
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
Give up on indoor heads altogether, squat off the pulpit and use the anchor wash hose as a bidet.
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This is pretty much the way the crewmen on a WWII PT boat did it while on patrol. The boats, or at least the Elco boats, had two toilets, one in the forepeak and one in the officer's suite. At speed the toilet in the forepeak was too dangerous to use and the one in the officer's suite was generally off-limits. It would take far too long to type up a description of the device the crewman created on the sterns of their boats but suffice it to say what they did was strikingly similar to CP's concept above.
It was dangerous and the crew hated using it but when you gotta go you gotta go.......
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09-12-2015, 03:36 PM
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Ok...since y'all so are fascinated with marine sanitation solutions....
On what vessel was the first true marine toilet installed? Bonus points if you can name the inventor.
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09-12-2015, 03:44 PM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
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USS Monitor
John Ericsson
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09-12-2015, 04:01 PM
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
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Wifey B: Mud Wrestling of the worst kind...
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09-12-2015, 04:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck
USS Monitor
John Ericsson
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You are correct, sir...Well done! The toilets on today's submarines are still very close to Ericsson's design. But hat wasn't the only thing Ericsson invented...I think you'll find the following to be fascinating reading:
No. 1344: The Monitor's Flush Toilet
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09-12-2015, 04:25 PM
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Sir walter Crapper.
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09-12-2015, 05:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailor of Fortune
Sir walter Crapper.
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Sorry, not correct...and you got Crapper's first name wrong too....it was Thomas.
Sir Thomas didn't invent the flush toilet either A man named Joseph Adamson was granted the first patent for a siphonic flush toilet in 1853...Crapper would have been 17 then, and another 8 years away from starting his business. There are no records of any patents for flush toilets being granted to Thomas Crapper. His nephew George Crapper did patent a designs tat was called "improvements to siphon flushing tanks, " but that was more 40 years after the first ones.
...And another myth bites the dust.
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09-12-2015, 05:30 PM
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Oh well there goes my guess down the toilet!
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09-12-2015, 06:07 PM
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City: Laidley
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Hi Peggy.
I have always believed that a bloke named Crapper invented the indoor toilet in England.
Always happy to be wrong, I thought that was why the loo was called a Crapper. Perhaps it should be called an Ericsson but Crapper sounds more appropiate.
Regards.
David.
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