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07-29-2016, 07:15 PM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Model: Helmsman 4304
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 2,005
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Wow, those are some fancy systems.
I have a joystick control but I Rarely use it. I learned how to handle boats using the shifters, and did not want to lose that skill by relying on a joystick.
One of the concerns I have with these joysticks, is brokers are selling these large boats to Inexperienced people who can write a check, but have very minimal skills.
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07-29-2016, 07:30 PM
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#23
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Guru
City: South Florida
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,088
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No cost beer? You left out the most important loss!! Your priorities are questionable!
Quote:
Originally Posted by cardude01
Last time I did this I almost ran over a sand bar and spilt my beer trying to hustle back down to the helm,
Cost:
Deck chair (actually just a bag chair)-- $10
Raymarine wireless smartcontroller with depth for autopilot-- $487
The ability to say I have a flybridge-- priceless!
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07-29-2016, 07:43 PM
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#24
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletcher500
Wow, those are some fancy systems.
I have a joystick control but I Rarely use it. I learned how to handle boats using the shifters, and did not want to lose that skill by relying on a joystick.
One of the concerns I have with these joysticks, is brokers are selling these large boats to Inexperienced people who can write a check, but have very minimal skills.
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Yes, and they don't keep them from running aground in the ICW or having other issues. Here's the logic being tossed out:
1-The only hard part of boating is docking.
2-These make docking easy.
3-Therefore you can do it all easily.
When the truth is docking is a small part of it, just the part that scares newcomers, and you jump in without experience, you will have a long learning curve. The people who make it look easy have thousands of days doing it.
That said, we have and use joysticks. We can do it without, but we don't choose to ignore tools we have.
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07-29-2016, 07:45 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keysdisease
No cost beer? You left out the most important loss!! Your priorities are questionable!
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Wifey B: Our beer cost for the loop is $0. Not discussing other costs.
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07-29-2016, 11:04 PM
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#26
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keysdisease
No cost beer? You left out the most important loss!! Your priorities are questionable!
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Damn, busted. My accounting sucks.
I think this is what I was drinking. 😳
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07-31-2016, 01:06 PM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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Tom Fexas on his Midnight Lace series did my dream style
A Bow Cockpit , upholstered with minor electronics and Auto Pilot controlls.
Far Fwd there should only be the noise from the bow wave .
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07-31-2016, 03:32 PM
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#28
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
Tom Fexas on his Midnight Lace series did my dream style
A Bow Cockpit , upholstered with minor electronics and Auto Pilot controlls.
Far Fwd there should only be the noise from the bow wave .
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Absolutely agree. One of my favorites for exactly that reason. On full plane that has to be an awesome ride.
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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08-01-2016, 09:50 AM
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,871
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowGypsy
I have decided that I do not really need or want a flybridge most of the time, but occasionally, it would come in handy.
If I should end up purchasing a trawler with a flybridge ..... no problem. I can use it or not, at my discretion.
If I end up with a boat without flybridge, I would like to be able to climb up on the roof of the pilothouse when really needed (eg., coral heads in the Bahamas / rocky passages in Georgian Bay and the North Channel) and still have full control. I know I can use the autopilot remote for steerage, but does anyone have a good suggestion for remote control of the engine and bow thruster?
I have this romantic notion of a very comfortable lounging chair up there, with big umbrella, and me with a tall drink in one hand, non-alcoholic of course, and a control unit in the other. Perhaps even a modern version of the crows nest?
Can it be done, this side of a million dollars?
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Get out your checkbook and buy yourself a Ranger Tug. Their largest model (I think it's a 31 but it might be a 34) has a collapsible flybridge. The idea is that it can be trailered without height restrictions but it could be left collapsed while on the water as well. And you can get under lower bridges without an opening.
Problem solved!
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08-01-2016, 11:14 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
City: Northern Ontario
Vessel Name: Chickadee
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WesK
Get out your checkbook and buy yourself a Ranger Tug.
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Yes, I guess that would be this side of a million bucks!
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08-01-2016, 11:45 AM
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#32
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Senior Member
City: Northern Ontario
Vessel Name: Chickadee
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 169
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Thanks Reiziger: - so there are more than a few options out there.
- shipcontroller
- astel-marine
- dockingmaster
- Vetus
- Mathers Micro controller
As Keysdisease pointed out, the first problem is the electronic to mechanical interface, but it obviously can be done.
I may yet end up with a boat that has a full flybridge anyway, but I still like the idea of a separate hand held remote for a solo mariner.
Thanks to all for your contributions!
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08-01-2016, 12:01 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
City: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Vessel Model: I have keys to lots of boats...
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 438
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I just sold a 57' Navigator two weeks ago. The sellers wife did not like line handling at the dock, and the seller liked the idea of a remote to make it easy. He installed a stern thruster and added a Yacht Controller at a cost of about $12,000.
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08-01-2016, 12:09 PM
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Member
City: ---
Vessel Name: ---
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 379
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yachtbrokerguy
......cost of about $12,000.
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It depends how a DIY you are, the principal is straitforward. A servo to control the trottle, one to control the gearbox an a electric valve to control the hydraulic steering. Some electronics to control this....
With an electronic engine even more easy, just control the CAN message for trottle position.
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