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04-21-2017, 12:48 PM
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Guru
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 (1985)
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New faucets on a 1985 KK42
We have some really leaky dated faucets in the galley and heads that I'd like to replace. Is there anything I need to be aware of WRT Taiwanese plumbing/pipe OD? I seem to recall that there were issues. I'd like to use those sharkbite fittings if I can. Any advice appreciated.
Jim
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04-21-2017, 12:59 PM
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Guru
City: Beverly Hills
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Jim, see my thread "Plumbing Fixture Remodel" 6/8/16. The plumber I used was impressed by the use of thick wall copper on our Krogen. We used Delta fixtures from the big box stores.
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04-21-2017, 01:06 PM
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City: Beverly Hills
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Jim he used these fittings to attach the new faucets.
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04-21-2017, 01:11 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Mount Vernon, WA / La Conner, WA
Vessel Name: Otter
Vessel Model: 1985 President Sundeck 41
Join Date: Dec 2015
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Same as above, though we used the less expensive "Glacier Bay" brand from Home Desperate.
The head faucet was a standard 4" spread, and all the existing lines/fittings mated up to the new one without any problems.
NOTE:
I did have to drill a 3rd hole (3/8" for popup valve handle) since the new faucet came with one.
It was rather hard to find one in stock that didn't come with the popup valve, let alone ordering one with faucet only.
Now that everything is in and not leaking, I'm going to see if I can replace the existing drain and add in the new drain and popup valve.
Now...to find a decent galley faucet with a 4" spread.
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04-21-2017, 01:13 PM
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Guru
City: Mississippi
Vessel Name: ADAGIO
Vessel Model: CHB Present 42 Sundeck
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Looks like 1/2" to 3/8" conversion - very common and easy
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04-21-2017, 01:16 PM
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Guru
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 (1985)
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New faucets on a 1985 KK42
Yes, the OD on the pipe is 1/2 inch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HiDHo
Jim, see my thread "Plumbing Fixture Remodel" 6/8/16. The plumber I used was impressed by the use of thick wall copper on our Krogen. We used Delta fixtures from the big box stores.
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I remember this thread but I can't find it. Do you recall which section?
Jim
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04-21-2017, 01:24 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
1/2" OD is tubing. 1/2" ID is pipe (typically 5/8" OD household copper water pipe).
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04-21-2017, 03:41 PM
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City: Brookline, NH
Vessel Name: Shalloway
Vessel Model: Defever 44, twin Perkins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HiDHo
Jim he used these fittings to attach the new faucets.
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This is all I had to do for my updates - very easy.
Ken
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04-21-2017, 03:59 PM
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Wannabe
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Name: Stillwater
Vessel Model: Kadey-Krogen 54
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 782
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It's interesting to see that your 1985 and 1987 Krogens use copper. The brochure for my 1988 Krogen 54 says copper plumbing, however it was all polybutylene. I'm in the process of upgrading to PEX one leak at a time
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04-21-2017, 07:16 PM
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Guru
City: Palm Coast
Vessel Name: Southerly
Vessel Model: 1986 Marine Trader 36' Sundeck
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,231
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I replaced all of mine with Delta also. Easy. Actually one of the easier jobs on the boat. 1986 Marine Trader.
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04-21-2017, 08:28 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WD40
Now...to find a decent galley faucet with a 4" spread.
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Why try? Go back to Home Desperate and have the Mrs pick her favorite kitchen faucet that will install in a single hole then purchase either a nice soap dispenser or cock hole cover(no, I'm not kidding about the name) to cover the extra hole.
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04-21-2017, 09:55 PM
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City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
Why try? Go back to Home Desperate and have the Mrs pick her favorite kitchen faucet that will install in a single hole then purchase either a nice soap dispenser or cock hole cover(no, I'm not kidding about the name) to cover the extra hole.
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In fact, there is a plate that covers both holes in the single hole faucet. That's what I have in the Galley.
All purchased at Lowes
Yes, an easy job
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04-23-2017, 10:20 PM
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Guru
City: Beverly Hills
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,371
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JD, the "Plumbing Remodel" thread is on page 2 of the Builders Forum section Kadey Krogens.
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04-23-2017, 10:57 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Brisbane
Vessel Name: Insequent
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 50 Mk I
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,262
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Big Box Store plumbing fittings are fine. I've done the galley sink and one shower to date. During my refit all the lines were replaced with Pex, so easy to fit new single lever mixers.
One thing I did notice was that my boat's water supply pressure/volume is much less than is normal in a house, so output in the shower is not as high. That's not a bad thing. Its quite adequate and using less water for a shower is a plus
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04-24-2017, 04:49 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Galley, head and shower all replaced over the years a couple of times. For the galley and the head I used standard big box faucets. Single hole galley faucets come with a plate which will cover the extra hole(s). Added soap dispenser by drilling another hole away from the faucet.
Shower was a little more difficult but did find RV shower faucets which permitted the hand held shower head.
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04-24-2017, 09:40 AM
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Guru
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 (1985)
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Thanks HiDHo and all. I'll check your thread out on the KK builders section.
Jim
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04-24-2017, 12:42 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Mount Vernon, WA / La Conner, WA
Vessel Name: Otter
Vessel Model: 1985 President Sundeck 41
Join Date: Dec 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
Why try? Go back to Home Desperate and have the Mrs pick her favorite kitchen faucet that will install in a single hole then purchase either a nice soap dispenser or cock hole cover(no, I'm not kidding about the name) to cover the extra hole.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wxx3
In fact, there is a plate that covers both holes in the single hole faucet. That's what I have in the Galley.
All purchased at Lowes
Yes, an easy job
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I did think about that, but the problem I'm running into is I want a true plug and play faucet, and the 4" center does just that.
I can connect the existing plumbing up to the new faucet.
To switch to the single holer would require rerouting the existing plumbing (hard plastic, not very bendable) and adding adapters.
Not only that, there's a backup hand pump faucet right next to the fixture which would require additional work and drilling and plumbing rerouting to move it out of the way to make room for the bigger cover.
I should take some pictures next trip to the boat since it might explain it a lot easier than I can.
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04-24-2017, 01:12 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Jim: Here's what is under the head sink on Hobo. We changed the faucets out when did the new counters and it was plug and play. We're the 4th owners so I have no idea if this is factory or not.
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04-25-2017, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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ONLY purchase a faucet with ceramic guts.
As you travel super hard water is going into your tanks eventually.
Only the ceramic will last long term .
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04-25-2017, 02:51 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
ONLY purchase a faucet with ceramic guts.
As you travel super hard water is going into your tanks eventually.
Only the ceramic will last long term .
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Now you tell me.
Thanks.
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