Dinghy hoist replacement
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Russell Clifton
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I use a Terra series Superwinch. Commonaly used for off road vehicles.
tiltrider1
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Which Rule motor and have you taken it to an electrical motor rebuilder? If it’s the Rule V60R motor parts are very rare. There is no drop in replacement winch or motor. If space is not an issue, there are a lot of options. Do you know the manufacturer of your davit? Contact them, this will not be a new problem for them.
jungpeter
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Hi Deano,
An interesting topic. To my knowledge, there are few marine electric dinghy hoists on the market that adequately lock the hoist cable with power off. The Rule 2200 (now discontinued) was one such hoist. Most dinghy hoists these days use simple winches, which have some degree of drag on the drum with power off, but do not lock. It appears most hoists advertised are really winches designed to PULL a load (such as a boat up onto a trailer, or an ATV out of a ditch) rather than LIFT a load.
In fact, there are a myriad of such winches, often available at other-than marine outlets (Cabellas, Off-Road Warehouse, etc.) that may, or may not work for your hoisting application. But be very careful. Few, if any of these winch manufacturers provide other-than winch "capacity" in there spec sheets. Nor are they designed as, nor advertised as, "hoists". Will they work? Sure, anything will work as a dinghy hoist. Until it doesn't.
For instance, what the heck does a "2000-lb. capacity" winch actually mean? Well, it typically means such a winch can pull a 2000-lb. load up some unspecified grade, against some unspecified coefficient of friction. It DOES NOT mean it will lift a 2000 lb. load. In fact, the lift capacity of that winch may be only tens of pounds, at full drum. And it's unlikely to lock that load mid-hoist, while you swing your dinghy overside.
There are true "hoists" available (Warn DC800, for instance) that specify a 500 lb line pull (ie-can actually LIFT 500 lbs.) at full drum, and mechanically lock that load with power off. Spendy (probably $1000 all-up, with synthetic line, and a remote power cable), but promises to do what I believe are essentials for hoisting safety, particularly on a boat. That being, of course, to lift your dinghy with an adequate margin of safety should your boat roll during your hoist, and lock said load mid-hoist to allow you to easily maneuver the dinghy onto and off the boat.
Sorry for the lengthy reply. It's not a simple topic, and (in my opinion) not adequately addressed by the marine industry. I've witnessed too many dinghy "incidents" caused by poor hoist designs to blindly run down to the local bait shop and buy the cheapest "dinghy winch" that purports to have adequate capacity for my needs. Personally, I'm going to spend the money for a hoist vs a winch on my boat. I value the safety of my crew, and the value of my property too much to skimp on an inadequate dinghy hoist.
Regards,
Pete
An interesting topic. To my knowledge, there are few marine electric dinghy hoists on the market that adequately lock the hoist cable with power off. The Rule 2200 (now discontinued) was one such hoist. Most dinghy hoists these days use simple winches, which have some degree of drag on the drum with power off, but do not lock. It appears most hoists advertised are really winches designed to PULL a load (such as a boat up onto a trailer, or an ATV out of a ditch) rather than LIFT a load.
In fact, there are a myriad of such winches, often available at other-than marine outlets (Cabellas, Off-Road Warehouse, etc.) that may, or may not work for your hoisting application. But be very careful. Few, if any of these winch manufacturers provide other-than winch "capacity" in there spec sheets. Nor are they designed as, nor advertised as, "hoists". Will they work? Sure, anything will work as a dinghy hoist. Until it doesn't.
For instance, what the heck does a "2000-lb. capacity" winch actually mean? Well, it typically means such a winch can pull a 2000-lb. load up some unspecified grade, against some unspecified coefficient of friction. It DOES NOT mean it will lift a 2000 lb. load. In fact, the lift capacity of that winch may be only tens of pounds, at full drum. And it's unlikely to lock that load mid-hoist, while you swing your dinghy overside.
There are true "hoists" available (Warn DC800, for instance) that specify a 500 lb line pull (ie-can actually LIFT 500 lbs.) at full drum, and mechanically lock that load with power off. Spendy (probably $1000 all-up, with synthetic line, and a remote power cable), but promises to do what I believe are essentials for hoisting safety, particularly on a boat. That being, of course, to lift your dinghy with an adequate margin of safety should your boat roll during your hoist, and lock said load mid-hoist to allow you to easily maneuver the dinghy onto and off the boat.
Sorry for the lengthy reply. It's not a simple topic, and (in my opinion) not adequately addressed by the marine industry. I've witnessed too many dinghy "incidents" caused by poor hoist designs to blindly run down to the local bait shop and buy the cheapest "dinghy winch" that purports to have adequate capacity for my needs. Personally, I'm going to spend the money for a hoist vs a winch on my boat. I value the safety of my crew, and the value of my property too much to skimp on an inadequate dinghy hoist.
Regards,
Pete
Hobo’s davit was originally powered by a Rule. The PO changed it out with a Warn DC1200 hoist for ~$600. It was a direct replacement to the Rule.
Warn has good published specifications so you should be able to compare with what you have.
https://www.warn.com/Attachment/DownloadFile?downloadId=2202
Warn has good published specifications so you should be able to compare with what you have.
https://www.warn.com/Attachment/DownloadFile?downloadId=2202
GregBrannon
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I replaced the motor that came with my dinghy davit with a Warn DC1000, including the remote and remote/motor interface. I don't know if the motor I replaced was a true hoist, but I learned during the replacement process that a hoist motor was the safest way to do it when compared to the less costly winch motor option. I've been very satisfied with the Warn products, and the remote is designed with superior protection for outdoor use.
Greg.
Greg.
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Deano
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I think the Warn DC800 will be more than adequate for my needs. I need more research on the controls for this unit. It appears to need some sort of relay to run.
Thanks all your input folks.
Thanks all your input folks.
