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03-22-2018, 06:01 PM
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#61
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Guru
City: Port Townsend, WA
Vessel Name: Traveler
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 46 LRC
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,576
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TJM
I am a year round liveaboard and shrink wrap my upper flybridge to my aft sundeck top. I will not block the windows as radiant heat through them is a huge freebee. Point your bow towards the south to get the most solar time possible. Shrink wrap helps with snow removal and some thermal benefit up top.
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Tom - Is that a DIY project? Sounds interesting. We have a mast to contend with in the middle of the upper deck. Do you have any pics?
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07-04-2018, 08:36 PM
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#62
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Member
City: toronto
Vessel Name: Quarters
Vessel Model: Custom Made Cliff Richardson
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 5
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Wintering in lake Ontario
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Other Gary
My boat winters in water in Toronto.
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Hi OGary...
I'm about to embark on this adventure.. Any boat in water friendly marinas for winter?
Thx
Q
GC
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07-04-2018, 08:46 PM
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#63
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,566
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Greetings,
Mr. Q. Welcome aboard eh?
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07-04-2018, 09:43 PM
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Senior Member
City: Toronto
Vessel Name: Adios Dinero
Vessel Model: Bayliner 3988 2 x 330 Cummins
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 336
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There are several in the Toronto area and to the east and west from Pickering to Port Credit.
Where do you want to be?
What size boat?
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07-05-2018, 01:47 PM
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#65
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Member
City: toronto
Vessel Name: Quarters
Vessel Model: Custom Made Cliff Richardson
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Other Gary
There are several in the Toronto area and to the east and west from Pickering to Port Credit.
Where do you want to be?
What size boat?
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I acquired a 'Bolgeresque' 54 aluminum. It has 4 6000 btu marine air reverse cycle units.
Anyone with experience in cold weather with reverse air heating?
As for places, more on the west side of lake Ontario. just found out that mcdonald marina in hamilton is closed
Im moving the boat from penetanguishene to lake Ontario on August. That will be my first long outing.
Q
Gc
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07-05-2018, 01:51 PM
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#66
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Guru
City: Tavernier, FL
Vessel Name: Volans
Vessel Model: 2001 PDQ MV 32
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 580
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quarters
I acquired a 'Bolgeresque' 54 aluminum. It has 4 6000 btu marine air reverse cycle units.
Anyone with experience in cold weather with reverse air heating?
As for places, more on the west side of lake Ontario. just found out that mcdonald marina in hamilton is closed
Im moving the boat from penetanguishene to lake Ontario on August. That will be my first long outing.
Q
Gc
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Hi Quarters,
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but those reverse air units become useless when the water drops below bout 45 or 50 (depending who you ask).
You'll need some other form of heat. We tried electric oil filled radiators in Maryland for a winter and barely toughed it out. We're looking at diesel hydronic heaters for our upcoming winter in Rhode Island....
-Gabe
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07-05-2018, 01:56 PM
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#67
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Member
City: toronto
Vessel Name: Quarters
Vessel Model: Custom Made Cliff Richardson
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 5
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Yes I imagined as much. I will look at adding a diesel heater...
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07-05-2018, 04:02 PM
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#68
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Senior Member
City: Toronto
Vessel Name: Adios Dinero
Vessel Model: Bayliner 3988 2 x 330 Cummins
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 336
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Port Credit Marina allows in water winter liveaboards.
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07-05-2018, 04:57 PM
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#69
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Guru
City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,023
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If you winter someplace cold that has occasional power outages, some auxiliary heat source like diesel, immune to ac loss, helps get thru the outage.
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07-06-2018, 05:32 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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"If you winter someplace cold that has occasional power outages, some auxiliary heat source like diesel, immune to ac loss, helps get thru the outage."
YES! almost everywhere gets power outages , sometimes for a week or more.
You might consider a heating setup that does not require any electric .
At least a diesel range , about 20,000BTU should be considered , that will drop into where the existing range is , for winters.
A 24-7 generator could also work , but the water intake must be well below any icing , and a big fuel tank is a plus .
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07-12-2018, 08:03 PM
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#71
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Veteran Member
City: Saint Petersburg, FL
Vessel Name: Migration
Vessel Model: Marine Trader 34 Double Cabin Yacht Trawler
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 77
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Oreck Heater
I have 2 reverse cycle heaters which in Southern New Jersey work for me most of the time. But I am thinking about looking into an Oreck heater. I know in the retail stores they heat the entire store. If they can heat a store, they can certainly keep my boat warm. They are much safer than the ceramic and other options...
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07-12-2018, 08:26 PM
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#72
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Guru
City: Here
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,940
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quarters
I acquired a 'Bolgeresque' 54 aluminum. It has 4 6000 btu marine air reverse cycle units.
Anyone with experience in cold weather with reverse air heating?
As for places, more on the west side of lake Ontario. just found out that mcdonald marina in hamilton is closed
Im moving the boat from penetanguishene to lake Ontario on August. That will be my first long outing.
Q
Gc
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Port Credit Yacht Club in Mississauga. nicest facility on the lake and cheaper than the marinas if you prorate the initiation fee. .... restaurant, bar, winter water, pumpout and pool if you are up to it.
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07-22-2018, 12:47 PM
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#73
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Member
City: toronto
Vessel Name: Quarters
Vessel Model: Custom Made Cliff Richardson
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by funangler
I like oil filled radiant heaters on there own dedicated power line. One In the forward section of the boat and one aft. The whole boat was spray foamed when redid and I don’t need much power. When you have a lot of snow the ice does not get very thick around the hull my hull is steel and I didn’t care about ice.
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Did you winterize your engines?
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07-22-2018, 12:50 PM
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#74
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Member
City: toronto
Vessel Name: Quarters
Vessel Model: Custom Made Cliff Richardson
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 5
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oops, bad reply.. using android app instead of pc. makes it harder...
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07-22-2018, 02:18 PM
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#75
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Senior Member
City: Toronto
Vessel Name: Adios Dinero
Vessel Model: Bayliner 3988 2 x 330 Cummins
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 336
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I winterize both my Cummins diesels by draining the entire engine and raw water system back to the thru hull.
I winterize my 8KW Westerbeke by entirely filling the cooling system back to the thru hull with plumbing antifreeze.
Three time in my 16 winters aboard there has been a power failure of more than a day, once was 3 days when a marina transformer blew. I can bring my generator online in less than 5 minutes for as long as it takes and then I always have enough plumbing antifreeze on hand to rewinterize.
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07-22-2018, 07:26 PM
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#76
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Guru
City: Edgewater, MD
Vessel Name: Catalina Jack
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,585
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabe n Em
Hi Quarters,
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but those reverse air units become useless when the water drops below bout 45 or 50 (depending who you ask).
You'll need some other form of heat. We tried electric oil filled radiators in Maryland for a winter and barely toughed it out. We're looking at diesel hydronic heaters for our upcoming winter in Rhode Island....
-Gabe
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We spent the past two winters living aboard in Galesville, MD which is about 10 miles south of Annapolis. Our reverse cycle quit at 42 degrees. Two pil filled radiators supplemented by two ceramic heaters got us through the winter just fine including that 10-day very cold spell in early January. Depends, I think, on the boat as to the adequacy of particular heating solutions. Ours seems to be a warm boat. Even in the coldest of temps, down to five degrees last winter, our engine room never got to 32 degrees. We do not winterize while living aboard.
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07-22-2018, 08:20 PM
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#77
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Guru
City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,610
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Catalina, Do you shrinkwrap the boat ?
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07-23-2018, 01:08 AM
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#78
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Guru
City: Edgewater, MD
Vessel Name: Catalina Jack
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,585
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benthic2
Catalina, Do you shrinkwrap the boat ?
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I do not wrap the boat. It's a Defever 44. Am wintering in Florida this year.
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07-23-2018, 01:46 AM
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#79
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Guru
City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,610
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Thanks
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07-23-2018, 08:06 AM
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#80
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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Difficult to see and navigate when the boat is shrink wrapped. Impossible to dock too.
May we all have a easy hurricane season. I think it is time for NYC to get their collective asses whooped by a couple of hurricanes EVIL GRIN
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