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11-20-2015, 08:08 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Living while "on the dry"
What is your strategy, as a liveaboard, when your boat is above ground (on the "dry") for maintenance? A women we met who lived aboard Elizabeth II stayed in her daughter's apartment while the ship was drydocked.
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11-20-2015, 08:49 PM
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Guru
City: Tavernier, FL
Vessel Name: Volans
Vessel Model: 2001 PDQ MV 32
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 580
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I'm looking forward to the answers to this one! We've only had one day where we had to stay with friends. Come springtime, we will need to be out for a few days. ..maybe get a hotel and have a staycation?
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11-20-2015, 08:50 PM
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Guru
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler(extended to 30 feet) Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,206
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Coot- What is the time frame you have in mind? Asked as I am able to stay onboard during my haul for annual bottom hair cut and shave. (Paint and zinks)
which at the longest, takes two full days and tides. The yard keeps the employee head open and dropping gray water is not a concern. Power is available and one can eat and sleep. NOTE: due to the angle of the yard rail system, one has to point one's head up hill for sleeping.
For us 'slow' boats, that feeling must be akin to a 'fast boat' cruizing at high speed where one walks up hill at full tilt!! Just joking, just joking.
Al-Ketchikan
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11-20-2015, 09:27 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
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You hook up power, a water tower for your A/C if you need it, get a good ladder or stair way and look at it like a working camping trip.
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11-20-2015, 09:50 PM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
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Many stay aboard their boats on the hard for some long periods. I have see it in many DIY and other boat yards.
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11-20-2015, 10:46 PM
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Guru
City: NARBONNE
Vessel Name: 'Snow Mouse.'
Vessel Model: BROOM FLYBRIDGE 42.
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,733
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Where we get lifted out there are toilets and showers open 24/7. We use a bucket 'n' chuck it for nocturnal needs and grey water. We get 5kw of power and Wi-Fi.
Any inconvenience we experience we see as an incentive to remove the proverbial finger from the fundamental orifice and work from daybreak until dusk.
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11-21-2015, 05:58 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,148
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I am sure there will be answers all over the map.
Where I am and many other marinas I know of do not allow you to stay on board.
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11-21-2015, 07:12 AM
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City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
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We've done it for a few days in a few places that supplied power. The only hassle was grey water discharge that went directly overboard (the galley sink); we turned the other grey water sump pumps as well as the bilge pumps off, having sumps that overflowed into the bilge. These were yards that had showers available, and during temperate weather, though we had a couple of fans and ceramic heaters if we needed them. The biggest hassle was the very tall ladder needed, though we were in one yard, Thunderbolt in Savannah, that supplied a big rolling metal stairway; we were almost the smallest boat in there so they had them for the megayachts. The next biggest hassle was workmen showing up early in the morning and us generally being in the way. For extended hauls, we stayed in a motel and used the time to explore the surrounding areas.
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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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11-21-2015, 07:21 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,148
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The question is for a liveaboard and that can still mean a few different things as well as why you are on the hard.
Another huge question is money as in who is doing the work, dyi or yard.
If you have the money, the yard is doing the work, heck I would be on a cruise ship.
Unfortunately I can't, so if a planned haul, I would find a yard that allows staying onboard. If unplanned and the only yard available doesnt, a motel room or apartment depending on the time involved. If the yard is doing the work, often the dry storage bill is reasonable enough to offset the cost of longer stay type rentals.
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11-21-2015, 07:24 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,565
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Greetings,
We have had two occasions where we were "on the hard" for some period of time and experienced NO problems staying aboard. The Hinckley yard in Thunderbolt, GA (Yup, very tall wheeled steps there as well) and AYB in VA. On both occasions, power was supplied and staff were quite accommodating.
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11-21-2015, 07:55 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,681
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In 2012 we hauled out for a major and spend ~5 months on the hard living on Hobo. We built stairs so we didn't have to deal with ladders. We bought a camper port-a-toilet that fit in the shower perfectly so no mid night trips to the bathrooms or peeing in a bottle. We had a window AC unit and a stand alone 12000 BTU AC unit that ran 24/7s. Gray water was piped to a drain. Other than feeling like we were living in an igloo for 4 month it was pretty comfortable.
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11-21-2015, 08:20 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Longest we lived aboard on the hard was three weeks. We even were able to figure out how to have the washing machine drain into a dock cart which was then dumped into the ocean. Same with the shower sump.
Living aboard on the hard is toughest for sailboats with water cooled refrigeration. Several couples I know had to buy cheap 110v residential refrigerators while on the hard.
Some also bought the porta-potty units. We just used the boat yard bath rooms.
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11-21-2015, 09:02 AM
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Guru
City: Seattle, WA
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
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For our recent haulout, we stayed with a liveaboard neighbor. Power was supplied to the boat for the entire haulout period, and water was available. There was a strict "no discharge" mandate.
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11-21-2015, 09:04 AM
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Guru
City: Marathon, Florida
Vessel Name: Walkabout
Vessel Model: 1989 Sea Ray 380 Aft Cabin
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 521
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We hauled out last year for 5 weeks. We lived aboard without any issues. We used a window AC in a hatch and bought a port-a-potty for at night use.
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11-25-2015, 05:59 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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Paper plates are useful as sink draining overboard is usually not possible.
If a 2 head boat a composting toilet install would be fine and get you set for the eventual no discharge until 12 miles at sea regulations.
Shower at the boat yard .
If in a tourist heavy area ask the boat yard crew if local resturiants have a "Locals" discount card , 15% to 25% can make a difference.
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11-25-2015, 08:16 AM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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We were eternally grateful for our 210 gallon holding tank and freshwater VacuFlush heads.
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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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11-25-2015, 11:15 AM
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Dauntless Award
City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,820
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Quote:
Originally Posted by READY2GO
We hauled out last year for 5 weeks. We lived aboard without any issues. We used a window AC in a hatch and bought a port-a-potty for at night use.
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Great ideas.
Thanks ALL
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11-25-2015, 12:29 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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The only time we've ever lived aboard was on the hard in a marina. We had two boats hauled in the same marina. We showered at another marina 5min away. We had the second boat for space untill we sold it. It was part of the process of moving to Alaska. We'd do it again given similar circumstances.
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North Western Washington State USA
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