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10-18-2021, 06:23 PM
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City: Western Massachusetts
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Chinese Junks
Has anyone considered. or seen. any Chinese Junks converted into modern live-a-boards?
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10-18-2021, 07:32 PM
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City: Tampa
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10-18-2021, 07:56 PM
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City: Western Massachusetts
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Ahhhh,,,, yeah.... and a few rounds of Bali. Number one.
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10-18-2021, 08:39 PM
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City: Tampa
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Didn't mean to be a SA. I've always loved the look of Junks. Saw when I was in Navy years ago. There are some listed here- https://www.sailboatlistings.com/ Maybe some in your vicinity Good Luck
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01-19-2022, 11:11 AM
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City: Victoria B.C.
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Yes, I have, and they were pretty good. As with many things in chinese cultures there a a lot of subtlties that westerners are unaware of. The junk rig is one such thing. Lots of benefits to them.
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01-19-2022, 01:28 PM
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Had one at my old liveaboard dock in Ft Lauderdale back in tbe early 80s.
The yacht brokers son lived on it.
It was pretty cool. About 40 to 45 feet if I recall. Never toured the whole thing ...just the "great cabin" aft.
The long bench seat across the stern was cool. The kid used to lift the cushion and fish though the opening to the water below...not sure if he ever used the flip down toilet seat though. 
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01-19-2022, 01:35 PM
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I saw one in Halibut Cove this past summer, obviously transiting through from somewhere and going somewhere else. That's across from Homer, didn't get the chance to interact with any of the occupants though. It's the first junk I have ever seen in Alaska!
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01-19-2022, 02:41 PM
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I've seen a few in the 40-45' range that appeared to make quite spacious live aboards. Can't speak to their sailing performance, but then there are a lot of junk rigged sailboats cruising around the world.
We have a live aboard power vessel a couple slips down that the owner refers to as a "Shanghai boat". I'll have to post a pic here when I get back home, but needless to say it's quite unique!
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01-19-2022, 02:49 PM
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City: Victoria B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonfish
I've seen a few in the 40-45' range that appeared to make quite spacious live aboards. Can't speak to their sailing performance, but then there are a lot of junk rigged sailboats cruising around the world.
We have a live aboard power vessel a couple slips down that the owner refers to as a "Shanghai boat". I'll have to post a pic here when I get back home, but needless to say it's quite unique!
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For sure, junk riggs are not 'performance ' rigs, so race boats dont have them. But they do have many benefits, which can be looked up, like ease of short handed sailing, no standing rigging, can repair sections instead of replacing the whole sail, etc.
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01-19-2022, 03:17 PM
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No standing rigging can be a benefit or not.
Every boat design is a compromise in some way.
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01-19-2022, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
No standing rigging can be a benefit or not.
Every boat design is a compromise in some way.
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Sure, and no standing rigging is a benefit at least in that...you dont have to buy it, repair it have the wind resistance, have things get stuck in it.
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01-19-2022, 07:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JWellington
Sure, and no standing rigging is a benefit at least in that...you dont have to buy it, repair it have the wind resistance, have things get stuck in it.
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If you understood boat design you would as quickly understand its benefits of using it.
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01-19-2022, 08:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
If you understood boat design you would as quickly understand its benefits of using it.
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Junk rig boats dont need it. Theres tons of lit out there on the benefits. But sure, not for the americas cup and such races.
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01-19-2022, 08:23 PM
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01-19-2022, 08:36 PM
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That link didn't work and neither is discussing boating reality with you..... see ya...
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01-19-2022, 08:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
That link didn't work and neither is discussing boating reality with you..... see ya...
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Try googling it to see the 50 advantages that you dont know about.
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01-19-2022, 08:48 PM
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01-19-2022, 08:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JWellington
For sure, junk riggs are not 'performance ' rigs, so race boats dont have them. But they do have many benefits, which can be looked up, like ease of short handed sailing, no standing rigging, can repair sections instead of replacing the whole sail, etc.
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Yes, but, isn`t China entering them for the next Americas Cup? Surely you know about that.
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01-19-2022, 09:13 PM
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City: Victoria B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Yes, but, isn`t China entering them for the next Americas Cup? Surely you know about that.
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I only answer serious questions.
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01-20-2022, 06:54 AM
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The old junks I have seen were all wood.
A wooden boat (even all teak) is a different tome consuming hobby than living aboard.
Never saw one that did not have a nice big engine fitted.
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