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Old 11-13-2017, 02:03 PM   #41
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Several 10 to 12 year old 47' Beneteaus for sale in Seattle area for your price point. FRP, not steel. Fast sailing and fast under power. Great accommodations. Proven world wide blue water vessels. "Modern" sailboats are indeed great motor sailors. These kinds of boats are why in Europe the classic old motor sailor design dropped out of popularity.

I know several who routinely do Alaska and have done Hawaii. They seldom raise sails in PNW because inshore winds are flukey and they are trying to make tidal reversing areas without tacking. I can barely keep up with a newer design sailboat over 45' traveling under power and in many cases get outrun at my "efficient" normal 7.8 knots.

Several sail boaters I know go about 100 or more miles offshore from Mexico back to PNW, but it is a dreary wet slog. Once in hot Baja Mexico lots of fuel for genset and AC is essential IMHO. This "sit at anchor and socialize" lifestyle negates the nice running sailing vessels that normally are not equipped with AC or large fuel tanks.

Nice modern vessels to be sure but with a fuel capacity of only around 60 gallons I'd be constantly having to be refueling from gerry jugs and stopping to fill those often.

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This thread caused me to seek out a friends boat which he used for a circumnavigation in the 70's. Didn't find her but this one ain't bad. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1969...a#.WgrmZLFOmf0
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Motorsailers are only rare on Yachtworld because people who own motorsailers tend to keep them.

And if anything, they are slightly faster than other full displacement power boats with the sails giving extra propulsion, lift, and stability (all of which add to speed).
I don't know if they are rare on Yachtworld or not, just that they are rare period. Go walk around a big marina, anchorage or mooring field anywhere in the world and see how many you find.
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I found this boat on yachtworld yesterday and I liked it a lot until I read that it had over 1,000 hp.

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Wifey B: If that boat looks half as good in person as on the web, then it's super duper nice and cool. What do you have against 1000 hp? I admit in a boat that size 1600 or so would be nice but 1000 gets a nice decent leisurely cruise. You can still go slow if you insist. Probably at 900-1000 RPM about 10 knots, maybe 1 to 1.1 nmpg. Nice looking boat.
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This thread caused me to seek out a friends boat which he used for a circumnavigation in the 70's. Didn't find her but this one ain't bad. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1969...a#.WgrmZLFOmf0


Ohhh! I looked for a steel Phil Rhodes motor sailer for years and could only find one in the Med that had been rebuilt after a fire.
I think I would trade my boat for that one in a New York second.
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This thread caused me to seek out a friends boat which he used for a circumnavigation in the 70's. Didn't find her but this one ain't bad. 1969 Rhodes Motorsailer Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
Wow, so nice!
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Old 11-15-2017, 07:14 AM   #47
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Ohhh! I looked for a steel Phil Rhodes motor sailer for years and could only find one in the Med that had been rebuilt after a fire.
I think I would trade my boat for that one in a New York second.
Wow, that's gorgeous! ..........expecting A LOT of company for coffee!
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