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Old 10-31-2018, 03:43 PM   #101
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A 2015 report by the USCoE states that there was 2.6 million tons between VA and Jacksonville, practically nothing between Jacksonville and Miami and 110 million tons on the Gulf waterway. Commercial fishing seemed to go in/out of their harbors to open water but not much along the ICW. It seems like a lot of infrastructure and maintenance for what looks like little utility.
Traveling the ICW South of Stuart you come to bridgeville and recreational boater congestion. The waterway is likely too slow for most commercial traffic. Between the multitude of bridges they would have to slow down for, the recreational boaters they would likely reduce speed because of, and the reduced widths in many areas, it's likely not economical.

BTW, regarding cost of maintenance and utility, recreational boaters have an exponential greater presence in FL on the ICW than most other areas, and the private sector probably pays a much higher percentage of the cost to maintain all of the ICW through our taxes.

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Old 10-31-2018, 04:18 PM   #102
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WifeyB, most were in the 3'-5' range with a few larger ones. Those were the ones that washed down the pilothouse windows.


When we're in stuff like that we're usually around 9-9.5kts. That's our hull speed and she seems to like running in that range.
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Old 10-31-2018, 04:29 PM   #103
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I think it is really hard to judge wave height from a video taken over the bow. It is easier for me to judge height by looking out the PH window to the side. Even then, it is hard from a 2D video to get a sense of the size of the waves.
Wifey B: Agree. But I think a lot of people have a problem judging anyway. A few judge like they do fish and something else I won't mention and everything is bigger in their minds than reality. But then others think of just height and don't think of depth and the fact wave height is from crest to trough. I'm thinking perhaps some of those leery of 2' waves are doing that.
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Old 10-31-2018, 04:29 PM   #104
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Or the wind was blowing the tops off the smaller waves.
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Old 10-31-2018, 07:42 PM   #105
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WifeyB, most were in the 3'-5' range with a few larger ones. Those were the ones that washed down the pilothouse windows.


When we're in stuff like that we're usually around 9-9.5kts. That's our hull speed and she seems to like running in that range.
Wifey B: That's close to what I would have guessed. I was 4-6' at the outset and down to about 3' by the end of the video.
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The wind blowing the tops off the waves make the wave look bigger.

Hey, let's ask the person who posted the video!!!
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:23 PM   #107
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After 106 posts (now 107) I don't think anyone has asked the OP (Mr. at) why he was asking. I suspect curiosity but maybe not.
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Old 01-18-2021, 01:22 AM   #108
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So far in Mass. the winter has been mild,only one snow storm brought 18 inches,other than that been in the 30-40 degrees with an occasional 50 degree day plus being a hardcore fisherman rain or shine I go,but for this winter so far get off work by 330 and 3 of the 5 days after work try to cruise,I like night cruising,the wind drops out,no one around,and run her out 3 or 4 miles past breakwater,for a total of about 10 miles or so,she's still very new to me so the excitement hasn't wore off,even just taking a little harbor cruise,plus have 250 gallons of old diesel trying to burn up by spring,and before me the previous owner didn't use her much,an occasional Sunday put,she was in the water but not used much,so its almost like rebreaking in the engine
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Old 01-18-2021, 05:29 AM   #109
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[QUOTE=atunkiller;707595]Do you travel in the rain?
stay home?
What are your limits[/QUOTE


If I was leaving home for a day trip, I wouldn't see the point in going out if it was to rain all day. If you are away from home and on a trip I don't unferstand the concern about rain
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Old 01-18-2021, 05:51 AM   #110
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NO , not in a motor boat , but when living aboard near NYC we would go for a sail on New Years Day , as long as the harbor was not iced in.

Since the Dickinson furnace worked fine at any angle of heel , and the H style smoke head worked fine ,
it was a great time to travel with just the storm sails , as an experiment.
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:18 AM   #111
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Old 01-21-2021, 10:07 PM   #112
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In my younger years I would go out in anything, almost didn’t survive a few times. Now I prefer a more gentle trip if possible. No bruises or pulled muscles the next day.
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A friend and I were taking Beachcomber to Portland a couple of years ago. Jim likes my boat a LOT because it is so stable in rough water. He found this video on his computer and sent it to me (all 158MB of it). This is in an area of the Columbia (Thirteen Mile Point) where the river narrows quite a bit because of the hills on both sides forming a natural choke point for the winds and current.

You can kind of see by his smile how much he likes driving my boat in these waters compared to his.

https://youtu.be/RbnWsiXTiLI
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Old 01-24-2021, 06:10 PM   #115
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chicken of the sea here! Never go out in wx!...
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Old 01-25-2021, 04:40 AM   #116
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chicken of the sea here! Never go out in wx!...

I find that hard to believe knowing your job. Or are you just talking about recreational boating?
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A bit of topic drift but I'll drift along. We went from Stuart to Mobile this summer and were surprised at the lack of commercial traffic on the waterway. Okeechobee-Ft. Meyers-Tampa-Apalachicola-Panama City: only activity was dredging, no shipping. The first barges we saw were west of Pensacola. A 2015 report by the USCoE states that there was 2.6 million tons between VA and Jacksonville, practically nothing between Jacksonville and Miami and 110 million tons on the Gulf waterway. Commercial fishing seemed to go in/out of their harbors to open water but not much along the ICW. It seems like a lot of infrastructure and maintenance for what looks like little utility.
Might seem like little commercial traffic, but different organizations have shown where recreational boating has caught and passed commercial in terms of economics....thus the politicians give money to the ACOE to keep it all going. As far as bridges go, more and more high rise are built to eliminate the drawbridge. Some lock systems like the Dismal Swamp are so historic in nature, funding comes from many sources last I heard.
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Sea conditions and wind are what stops us from leaving a decent anchorage or what makes us run for a better one.

Rain doesn't bother us even though we have no wipers.
Radar and a squeegee.
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If it’s not comfortable we don’t travel. Depends on the weather and current state of mind. It’s supposed to be fun.
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Rain is no reason to stay home if I'm going somewhere. I wouldn't go out in bad weather for a pleasure cruise. I do watch the marine forecasts and stay home if it's too rough. funny thing is how often they say "seas 1 foot or less" and I find myself in 4 footers.
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