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07-29-2012, 09:50 PM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
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 Being that the "fashionable" yacht that Marin posted in question is a Ferretti with a 94/25/EC designation A (Ocean), I'm sure those ports will be just fine.
I'd sell it and buy a Nordhavn, a Selene, KK, or similar. Mind you, I'd have to pay extra to get the 94/25/EC A stamp, but I wouldn't have to change my whole wardrobe, like I would for the Ferretti. I might even have some change left over to fund the circumnavigation.
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07-30-2012, 12:12 AM
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#42
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Guru
City: PNW
Vessel Model: 1976 Californian Tricabin LRC
Join Date: May 2011
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Not crazy about the color of the boat, but how about these windows. She looks like she could handle some heavy seas.
Larry B
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07-30-2012, 07:36 AM
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Scraping Paint
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Model: CHB 48 Zodiac YL 4.2
Join Date: Oct 2007
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The windows shown in post #7 are on a boat that has made 2 trans Atlantic trips each year for the past 7 years.
There are well developed standards for construction of the type of windows under discussion, they do not pose any great risk. The ones on the little Clorox bottle boats can be hideous but that doesn't make them dangerous.
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07-30-2012, 08:43 AM
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#44
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Senior Member
City: Hampstead,NC
Vessel Name: HoneyBadger
Vessel Model: 1990 Harkers Island Trawler Typical wooden hull with a Carolina flare and no deadrise at the stern
Join Date: May 2012
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Those windows on the green hull boat look small enough and shape has alot to do with the ability to handle impact. I am sure they would be fine as in days of old when anything near the water was a small round heavy duty port hole. And like it was said earlier some never leave the sight of land they would be fine. Myself i use my boat for more than ICW cruiser last year we were about 45 miles off shore fishing and waves went from 4/6 to 6/8 before i could make the inlet they were 8/10 had to divert to another inlet to even get back inside. Marine forcast had been for 4/6 dimishing to 2/3- when the alert came over the weather fax i was WOT headed for shore but didnt have time to make it. In Short Your boat your windows know the limits of your boat.
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07-30-2012, 08:49 AM
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
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If a wave strong enough to punch a well built window out slams into the broiadside of the vessel...stability may well be an issue LONG before the window becomes a concern. 
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It doesn't have to be a wave. It could be a log, a shipping container, or just the corner of a dock. Or another boat.
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07-30-2012, 10:32 AM
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#46
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Senior Member
City: Hampstead,NC
Vessel Name: HoneyBadger
Vessel Model: 1990 Harkers Island Trawler Typical wooden hull with a Carolina flare and no deadrise at the stern
Join Date: May 2012
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So true i have seen some pretty rough dockings in my day!
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07-30-2012, 11:15 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rwidman
It doesn't have to be a wave. It could be a log, a shipping container, or just the corner of a dock. Or another boat.
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When was the last time you heard of ANY of those punching out something that far above the waterline and sinking the boat??? After 33 years of boating rescue/assistance... I never seen, read or heard of any...
A dock? well I would get it fixed before my next transatlantic...can't believe I would even address that one...  A broken window might not be seaworthy...but intact I'm sure it's just fine at sea... 
If you hit a boat that takes out that window...good chance it might take out a well found hull too...again...has nothing to do with initial seaworthyness...need I go on or have I CLEARLY addressed the simple concept yet??? 
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07-30-2012, 11:18 AM
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#48
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honeybadger
Those windows on the green hull boat look small enough and shape has alot to do with the ability to handle impact. I am sure they would be fine as in days of old when anything near the water was a small round heavy duty port hole. And like it was said earlier some never leave the sight of land they would be fine. Myself i use my boat for more than ICW cruiser last year we were about 45 miles off shore fishing and waves went from 4/6 to 6/8 before i could make the inlet they were 8/10 had to divert to another inlet to even get back inside. Marine forcast had been for 4/6 dimishing to 2/3- when the alert came over the weather fax i was WOT headed for shore but didnt have time to make it. In Short Your boat your windows know the limits of your boat.
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I see you too are having a hard time believing some boat designers/naval architects/engineers might actually know what they are doing or have thought about things like breaking waves and such....and sure ANY vessel including a Norhaven can be sunk by a skipper not up to the task.
These issues STIL HAVE NOTHING TO DO with the actual seaworthyness of those windows unless one of us has seen the warning sticker or note in the operators manual that SAYS "do not ooperate in XX conditions"...
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07-30-2012, 04:16 PM
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
When was the last time you heard of ANY of those punching out something that far above the waterline and sinking the boat??? After 33 years of boating rescue/assistance... I never seen, read or heard of any...
A dock? well I would get it fixed before my next transatlantic...can't believe I would even address that one... A broken window might not be seaworthy...but intact I'm sure it's just fine at sea...
If you hit a boat that takes out that window...good chance it might take out a well found hull too...again...has nothing to do with initial seaworthyness...need I go on or have I CLEARLY addressed the simple concept yet??? |
In the words of bart Simpson, "Don't have a cow, man!"
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07-30-2012, 04:33 PM
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#50
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Guru
City: Chocowinity NC
Vessel Name: My Yuki
Vessel Model: 1973 Marine Trader 34
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 636
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08-04-2012, 10:11 AM
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#51
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Guru
City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Panache
Vessel Model: Viking 43 Double Cabin '76
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,249
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DBF Rick! I hear what you're saying (and you are quite right), but for my non-pro operated/maintained boat, minimizing hull penetrations seems like a prudent rule.
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