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06-20-2020, 11:18 AM
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Senior Member
City: Brentwood
Vessel Name: Miss Rita
Vessel Model: 2004 Heritage East
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 150
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Why did Gelcoat turn yellow under Plaque?
The getcoat is shiny but brown under the name plaque? The boat was not painted. It appears as a deep stain. Any ideals on how to lighten gelcoat?
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06-20-2020, 11:33 AM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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You may find that was the original color of all your hull!
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06-20-2020, 11:41 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Sandpiper
Vessel Model: Bluewater 40 Pilothouse Trawler
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,315
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
You may find that was the original color of all your hull!
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Yup.
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06-20-2020, 11:59 AM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,046
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This is what I use. Works great. They also have instructional videos. As stated you may find this as your original color.
Good Luck.
https://shurhold.com/products/buff-magic-compound
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06-20-2020, 12:32 PM
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Guru
City: West Coast
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveandZoila
Any deals on how to lighten gelcoat?
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Cover the rest of the boat with SPF 100 and wait for this patch to catch up.
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06-20-2020, 01:02 PM
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Guru
City: Mt Crested Butte
Vessel Name: Artemis
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 67
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 551
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Wash it with on / off and then compound and polish..
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06-20-2020, 01:05 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,738
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Is gel-coat always clear?
Probably not.
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North Western Washington State USA
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06-20-2020, 03:27 PM
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Guru
City: AR
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,514
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UV oxidizes paint and gelcoat,leeching the color out of it. UV can't get to the paint or gelcoat thats under plaques or lettering so it doesn't oxidize. Now that it's explosed, it will...eventually. Years ago when I needed to get rid of the "ghost" of the previous name before having the new name put on, the boat lettering pro we used told me it would disappear in about a month if I brushed "painted" it with undiluted bleach several times a day (the transom or that side of the boat had to be exposed to sunlight). He'd wait to come back to paint the new name on till I let him know it was gone. It actually only took about 3 weeks...yours looks darker, so it may take longer.
Or you could just put a new name plaque on it.
--Peggie
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06-20-2020, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member
City: Brentwood
Vessel Name: Miss Rita
Vessel Model: 2004 Heritage East
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 150
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Fading?
I talked to a friend today who said when his boat name was removed it had a brown color under it. His guy just put the new name over it. My friend said over time the area faded away! I think I will clean it and fill holes and just wait, I will report back later with progress.
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06-20-2020, 04:35 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,131
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On a previous boat the PO used metal flake vinyl to make the name. It was on the boat for 25 years. When I removed the vinyl the gel coat was dark brown. I think that the metal flake burned the gel coat somehow. I tried everything I could think of to remove the brown. Finally tried sanding it off but it went deep into the gel coat. The final fix was painting the transom.
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06-20-2020, 07:02 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,100
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadMistress
UV oxidizes paint and gelcoat,leeching the color out of it. UV can't get to the paint or gelcoat thats under plaques or lettering so it doesn't oxidize. Now that it's exposed, it will...eventually.
Or you could just put a new name plaque on it.
--Peggie
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Surely this is the most logical fix..?
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06-20-2020, 10:38 PM
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#12
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Senior Member
City: Brentwood
Vessel Name: Miss Rita
Vessel Model: 2004 Heritage East
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 150
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True color
The boat is an 2004, white gelcoat, there are many areas the sun doesn't touch, ie the hard top over aft deck and its very white. So there's no oxidation making my"brown boat " white. Maybe the heat thru the panel, or off gassing of materials, ie Labels. any more thoughts?
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06-20-2020, 11:15 PM
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#13
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Sandpiper
Vessel Model: Bluewater 40 Pilothouse Trawler
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,315
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveandZoila
The boat is an 2004, white gelcoat, there are many areas the sun doesn't touch, ie the hard top over aft deck and its very white. So there's no oxidation making my"brown boat " white. Maybe the heat thru the panel, or off gassing of materials, ie Labels. any more thoughts?
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I think the difference in gloss between the two areas reflect light differently changing the original off white color into pure white.
Older Bayliners, Mainships and other boats were off white instead of white. Several new boats too. When they oxidize, they turn whiteish.
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06-21-2020, 10:27 AM
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#14
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Guru
City: West Coast
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,789
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I have had the same thing happen in a few places on my boat when it was brand new. In those areas, the gelcoat (and it is / was all original gel coat) turned darker (the boat is white) when covered for only about a year. In each case, I suspect an interaction between the gelcoat and the surface resting on it. One of those other surfaces was rubber (the base of a support that rests on top of a fiberglass dock box to support my crane's boom -- its real purpose is to provide security to the dock box by preventing its opening without first raising the crane). And, come to think of it, the dock box, though brand new and fiberglass, was not made with the boat. The other place was where a plastic EPIRB bracket had been mounted -- with screws, no adhesives. That gel coat turned a dark yellow.
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