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10-25-2013, 12:19 PM
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City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
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Troy wears one.
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10-25-2013, 12:44 PM
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#82
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
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"Safety" grew tentacles and one is risk management. Drilling slow below you is different than drilling above you.
Walking around the decks in broad daylight in protected warm waters is different than at night, in the ocean when it's January.
Absolute rules are for people who aren't experienced to a given level or for people who can't manage risks.
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10-25-2013, 12:56 PM
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#83
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City: somewhere
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
"Safety" grew tentacles and one is risk management. Drilling slow below you is different than drilling above you.
Walking around the decks in broad daylight in protected warm waters is different than at night, in the ocean when it's January.
Absolute rules are for people who aren't experienced to a given level or for people who can't manage risks.
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Or your age, flexibility, how strong of a swimmer you are.
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10-25-2013, 01:13 PM
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#84
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
"Safety" grew tentacles and one is risk management. Drilling slow below you is different than drilling above you.
Walking around the decks in broad daylight in protected warm waters is different than at night, in the ocean when it's January.
Absolute rules are for people who aren't experienced to a given level or for people who can't manage risks.
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Makes perfect sense.
This weekend, I used the dingy between boats and boat-to-dock in a protected harbor without putting PFD on. (I store non-inflatables on the dink.) When I crossed Raccoon Straight in a dink, my passengers and I wore inflatable PFDs. Wouldn't have crossed without them.
If I'm sanding wood - no safety glasses. If I'm grinding metal, safety glasses are worn.
Evaluate your circumstances and experience and risks and act accordingly. Would I let my kid drill a hole in wood or drywall without glasses? Sure...and so did my Dad and Grandfather. I'm still here with both eyes.
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10-25-2013, 01:18 PM
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#85
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Scraping Paint
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Model: CHB 48 Zodiac YL 4.2
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,804
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Placing one's tongue in one's cheek can lead to an owie too ...
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10-25-2013, 01:42 PM
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City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickB
Placing one's tongue in one's cheek can lead to an owie too ...
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Especially for this guy
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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10-25-2013, 03:12 PM
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#87
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Scraping Paint
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Model: CHB 48 Zodiac YL 4.2
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I'm feeling kind of queasy ...
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10-25-2013, 04:56 PM
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#88
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City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,037
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickB
.... In some parts of the world 4-year-olds chop coconuts with razor sharp machetes and hardly ever lose a body part....
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You mean like these 2?
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10-25-2013, 05:01 PM
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City: Tampa
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
You mean like these 2?
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Saw that kind of thing while conducting some training in South America last year.
All I can say is, I'd have lost all of my fingers doing what the locals did! 
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10-25-2013, 05:31 PM
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City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,940
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Hazards are real. Risks are constructs usually defined by likely hood and consequence. It is the risk management and minimizing exposure that most people fail at.
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10-25-2013, 06:31 PM
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#91
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City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 26,603
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beachbum29
Or your age, flexibility, how strong of a swimmer you are.
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See Northern Spy's post for your answer.
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10-25-2013, 09:45 PM
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#92
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City: somewhere
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,356
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
See Northern Spy's post for your answer.
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Wasn't looking for an answer. I understand my limitations.
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10-28-2013, 09:56 AM
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#93
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City: Trenton
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,463
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We put them on when the thought occurs to us.
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34' Marine Trader
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10-28-2013, 01:46 PM
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,215
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy
Hazards are real. Risks are constructs usually defined by likely hood and consequence. It is the risk management and minimizing exposure that most people fail at.
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Completely agree. Risk management needs to be a big part of your thought process when organizing your boating adventure. Very few injuries or deaths occur due to bad luck. It is almost always poor risk management.
After working in a high risk industry for many years, I now automatically assess risk and try to mitigate hazards with any task I take on. Its a big part of the planning process.
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10-29-2013, 09:28 AM
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City: LI or Fla
Join Date: Jul 2013
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I must admit not a big fan of wearing any type of PFD, this miss giving was brought to light this past summer while in Hadley Harbor Ma we decided to take a dingy ride over to Woods Hole for lunch, just me and the bride, large raft plenty of HP, well the water running through that area can get rather sporting, part way through I clipped on the kill switch to me, once through, we decided we really should try those vest on that are always clicked into the raft, well we had a pretty good laugh as they must have been fitting for me 20 years ago, and I've put on a couple of pounds and no way it would have fit. Long story long looking for new proper fitting vests and plan on using them before we need them.
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