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Old 02-12-2020, 06:19 PM   #1
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What trawler should I look at?

Hi guys. Iím considering buying an trawler. The problem is I do not know anything about trawlers. Have been spending the last 50 years in sailboats.

Here is my needs:

Single screw trawler capable of doing 8-9 knots.

Comfortable for two people with opportunity to offer two guests a separate cabin for shorter visits.

No teakdeck

As I enjoy working on boats as much as actually using them a projekt boat could be of interest.

My budget is up to 150.000 USD.

What models should I be looking at?
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A couple of questions. Do you want a real trawler or a wannabe trawler? Length? . What are your travel plans?
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A couple of questions. Do you want a real trawler or a wannabe trawler? Length? . What are your travel plans?
Iím not sure what the difference is between real and wannabe?

My travel plans are inside passage Alaska and San Juan Islands in PNW.

Length: Not so important. As close to 32 feet as possible, but would not say no to 40 feet if budget allows. Fuel economy is important. Iím used to motor my 16 ton sailboat in 7 knots @ 1.2 gallon/hour.
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I’m not sure what the difference is between real and wannabe?

My travel plans are inside passage Alaska and San Juan Islands in PNW.

Length: Not so important. As close to 32 feet as possible, but would not say no to 40 feet if budget allows. Fuel economy is important. I’m used to motor my 16 ton sailboat in 7 knots @ 1.2 gallon/hour.
8-9 knots cruise would militate against a 32 footer. Look longer. The old "hull speed" formula, not backed by all here, would give you a start. Or use this https://www.easycalculation.com/phys...calculator.php which is the same thing.
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:13 PM   #5
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8-9 knots cruise would militate against a 32 footer. Look longer. The old "hull speed" formula, not backed by all here, would give you a start. Or use this https://www.easycalculation.com/phys...calculator.php which is the same thing.
Yep you are absolutely right. That I should have figured out myself

So I think I rather go smaller and loose a knot or two.

The key thing is to have a second cabin for guests. Are there any trawlers under 36 feet with two cabins?
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Willard 40. Ballasted full keel single engine - "real trawler" in words of another post . This one is on wrong coast for you, but there is usually one or two a year that show up on pacific coast.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...awler-3550716/
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Yep you are absolutely right. That I should have figured out myself

So I think I rather go smaller and loose a knot or two.

The key thing is to have a second cabin for guests. Are there any trawlers under 36 feet with two cabins?
There are a few 36 foot single engine trunk cabin trawlers without teak decks, some had the decks modified by previous owners. Try Monk or Albin. Careful on the fuel tanks - many are at the age where they need to be replaced. Not cheap.
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Seems a Nordic Tugs 32 would fill the bill. PNW boat through and through. Lots of them in TW at/near your price point.
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Most Monk 36s cruise comfortably between 6.5 and 7.0 knots with single 135 Perkins and Lehmans. GBs, Marine Traders and Albin 36 single engines boats about the same. Those with 6 cyl Cummins cruise about 7.0 - 7.5 knots. 42 footers cruise 7.5 - 8.0 knots. More with turbocharged engines if you can stand the fuel bills.
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How does a Turbo Charged engine increase your fuel bill by any appreciable amount?
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Cruising a 9 knots instead of 8 will.
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I Still don’t understand how a TC engine increases the fuel bill?
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I Still donít understand how a TC engine increases the fuel bill?
I am not sure it will. In some cases it may be more efficient. But I am not an expert on thermodynamics.

Let's say you have an NA Lehman at 135hp. And then you had a Turbo Lehman at 225hp...both in the exact same theoretical boat. The question would be, would one burn more than the other at the exact same speed(let's say at a speed no more than 1.1xwaterline)????
My answer would be I don't know. BUT I would be willing to bet the difference would be very small. No if you get up to or over hull speed the turbo engine has the potential and ability to burn more fuel.

Please be careful of thread hijack.....

To the OP...your question is extremely broad. There are a lot of very decent, comfortable, safe boats in your price range. Me personally, if I was going to spend a good amount of time aboard, bigger is almost always better. You do start running into problems of single engine boat availability when you get close to 40 feet unless it is a "specialized" boat. I think the Mainship lines from 35-40 feet can be had for that price and represesent a pretty decent value. If you look outside of the "trawler" realm, there are boats like Carver that offer tremendous comfort and value...but those will be twin engines....the 356...406....440....445 all could be had for well under your price point in diesel and offer tons of space.

As far as what is a "real trawler", please use the search function. There have been NUMEROUS discussions on that subject and the answer to that question is....nobody knows.... . Trawler is in the eye of the beholder(and the marketing department). What we mostly talk about on here is "cruising powerboats" and the lifestyle associated with them.
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I Still donít understand how a TC engine increases the fuel bill?
It's not the turbocharger that increases fuel consumption.
It's the added power that the turbocharger makes possible.
A small trawler may only have room for a NA diesel of moderate
output but a compact T/C diesel with, say, twice the HP in the
same footprint could increase the fuel consumption considerably.
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As Baker said the Mainship 350/390 or 400 would fit your bill. Both are two stateroom boats, mostly single engines, no external teak. A lot of boat for the money. Even though Mainships say trawler right on the boat, the purists among us would say they are not as they are not full displacement boats. If you are familiar with the Cherubini line of blue water sailboats, John Cherubini designed the hulls on the Mainship 34 I II & III from the late 70's through the mid 80's (these are single stateroom boats) also the Mainship 36 & 40 Nantuckets (aft cabin trawlers) and the 350/390. I keep my boat next to the Cherubini factory and they use our marina to launch their boats.
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A real trawler or a wannabe trawler?

Real is a full displacement hull.
Wannabe trawler is a semi displacement hull that is overpowered with respect to hull speed.
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You guys crack me up with this "real" and "wannabee" stuff.
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Welcome aboard. https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/...1-a-14905.html
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"You guys crack me up with this "real" and "wannabee" stuff."

The first question might be why a "trawler"?

In many cases "trawler" is simply the shape of the deck house , the same boat hull construction and outfitting can be found in other single engine displacement boats,with a different look.

AS many more cruisers are built than "trawlers" the interior design and functional use of the boat can be far better as so many are built there upgraded by owner demand .


"Trawler" sounds like a real heavy vessel with true offshore ability , but in 99% of the builds that is not realistic.

For the best luck in cruising , rather than repairing , a real GRP boat , no buried plywood in PH or deck might be best.


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Seems a Nordic Tugs 32 would fill the bill. PNW boat through and through. Lots of them in TW at/near your price point.
Thanks, Yes I did see Nordic Tugs 32 when I did the inside passage 20 years ago in my sailboat. Nice looking boat.
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