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Old 12-31-2017, 06:40 AM   #141
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OK Peter,
I give up.
Ever heard that on TF?

Hereís a pic as a peace offering.
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Nice picture of a 1960s Toyota Supra. This was the era that Toyota began its ascent and Jaguar the opposite, still trying to relive the E Type. Maybe the F Pace, Land Cruiser cloning and Indian ownership will re-ignite the J badge.

Oh, and Toyota is readying to launch a new Supra.
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Old 12-31-2017, 10:31 AM   #142
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Land "Yacht"! LOL

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Old 12-31-2017, 10:35 AM   #143
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Papabear,
You’re right I’d love to have a car talk but thread drift is a problem here. I’ll only say that I had a 140MC and never was terribly familiar w the E type. So I think this pic looks fine.

The pic of the Toyota 2000 was just to tickle Peter’s bones. He drives a wannabe 2000. The Supra .. in red.

Sunchaser,
The Supra is a common car compared to the Toyota 2000. Look at the pic again.

This forum needs a place for car talk and airplane talk. Many here love to talk about these non-trawler things but there’s a more important aspect of the question. The aviation and automotive world is closely related to the boating world. When I was into ultralight aviation I was amazed at how many motorcyclists there was among us. And our hanger talk was hugely injected w cars and motorcycles.

It looks like the harbor chat section is clearly for boats so am I right that we should have a car and airplane section?
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Papabear,
Youíre right Iíd love to have a car talk but thread drift is a problem here. Iíll only say that I had a 140MC and never was terribly familiar w the E type. So I think this pic looks fine.

The pic of the Toyota 2000 was just to tickle Peterís bones. He drives a wannabe 2000. The Supra .. in red.
So as we close this thread drift, have a look here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_E-Type
Jaguar E Type for Sale | Classic Cars for Sale UK

Happy dreaming - and a very Happy New Year to one and all.
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It looks like the harbor chat section is clearly for boats so am I right that we should have a car and airplane section?

No. People that want to talk about airplanes and cars should go to a car or airplane forum. This is a boating forum.
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No. People that want to talk about airplanes and cars should go to a car or airplane forum. This is a boating forum.
Yes, in fact maybe 50% of the posts here are about boating.
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Old 12-31-2017, 12:12 PM   #148
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My Ocean Alexander is a trawler because OA said so when they built it...LOL

When I think of a yacht, I think of those 150 ft plus monstrosities that require a full crew to operate whether sail or power.
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When I think of a yacht, I think of those 150 ft plus monstrosities that require a full crew to operate whether sail or power.
Since sail boats seem to use their engines for more than 50% of the time they are not moored up, does that mean they are actually motor boats and not sail boats? Trade description come to mind.

Hmmm.
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Since sail boats seem to use their engines for more than 50% of the time they are not moored up, does that mean they are actually motor boats and not sail boats? Trade description come to mind.

Hmmm.
When you consider the Maltese Falcon, a "sailing" yacht has to keep it's diesels running 24/7 when cruising to power the sail hydraulics, burning more gph than 4 40 ft trawlers at WOT, maybe?
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When you consider the Maltese Falcon, a "sailing" yacht has to keep it's diesels running 24/7 when cruising to power the sail hydraulics, burning more gph than 4 40 ft trawlers at WOT, maybe?
Ha! Slam dump I believe.
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Old 12-31-2017, 12:37 PM   #152
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You all solved it!!!!!


The '67 muscle car goes on the back of a Trawler!


The Toyota or Jag goes on the back of a Yacht!


Awesome, now back to boating...
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We consider our Mainship to be a boat. A big boat by the time you add the bow sprit and dinghy.
MS calls it a 430 Trawler.
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Old 12-31-2017, 04:50 PM   #154
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Ever since SeaDory called their OB boats “trailerable trawlers” I have not given any credit to what manufacturers say on this matter.
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Old 12-31-2017, 05:43 PM   #155
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I think this thread's utility for real information ended not long after it started, so any derailing going on may as well be here.

My Mom's 60's Bentley was a gorgeous yacht, Dad's Mopar fake-woody station wagon was a real boat.
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See cars on “harbor chat”.
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I have enjoyed this thread, I must say! Where I live, trawlers are commercial fishing boats that trawl nets compared to similar dimension boats that might also be full displacement, single engine, wood construction, but which fish pole and line. Both are called "fishing boats" but only one of them is a trawler. Both have fish wells, but only the latter has live bait tanks. These kinds of fishing boats have huge carrying capacities; for example, one of the other fishing boats here displaces 12 tons and can carry 10. Most go out in all but the worst conditions and stay out days at a time.

I know you all know this—I make this point only to highlight the extent to which the recreational boat building community has taken the attributes of seaworthiness that these vessels have to have and labelled a number of vessels they sell as "trawlers", but they do not appear to share many of the characteristics of fishing boats. How could they? They are designed with very different goals in mind.

My new boat is labeled a trawler by its designer, and no doubt shares some DNA with the wooden boats I described. In reality, it is a full-displacement, single engine, carvel construction wooden boat that has the sheer lines of some of the fishing boats in this area, but has been designed as a live-aboard boat (so different engine placement, for example, not needing a fish well).

Here in Australia, as far as I know, "yacht" describes two kinds of boats: those with sails and much larger pleasure boats. I think we borrowed the American usage for the pleasure boats.
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