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12-29-2017, 08:36 PM
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Guru
City: Quebec
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,002
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Originally Posted by Bob Cofer
Thanks Lou, you got the point exactly.
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You're welcome Bob, I got you 5/5!
Where I stay I often explain the difference between my trawler and my neighbour cruisers, it is very simple. On a cruiser you jump on your boat, you go for lunch 50nm away and you are back before sunset. On the way you can see trees at the most. With my trawler I need 2 days to go 50nm away, but on my way I see the trees, the tree branches and the birds singing on the branches and all that sitting comfortably on my flybridge while enjoying a glass of good wine on my way and talking with my wife. Oh and also the fuel they burn on a round trip is what I burn in a season. 
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12-29-2017, 08:40 PM
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Senior Member
City: Kingsville, MD
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Harmony
Vessel Model: Pacemaker 1990 37' Convertible
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Agree. It takes a while to get where I'm going, but quiet enough to have a conversation at the upper helm. Took a friend on a 6 hour cruise this year and now he's looking for a trawler for this reason.
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12-29-2017, 09:06 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,019
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A 50 nautical mile trip takes me eight hours assuming no tidal influence. That is a two-day trip for me. Same for on the interstate highway: more than four hours is a pain. Not like in my 20s when I could drive for 20 hours straight
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12-29-2017, 09:45 PM
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#124
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,561
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Thread Title: What makes a yacht a Trawler Yacht?
Evolved advertising nomenclature. Nothing less, nothing more!
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12-29-2017, 09:55 PM
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#125
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,019
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So many ways to confuse the people ... Let's get it straight:
A trawler, in the recreational sense, means a boat with full living quarters (bed, toilet, shower, kitchen) and is unable to exceed hull speed and being fuel-efficient. Will rarely have two primary engines because the additional horsepower is unnecessary.
As for the boating experience, a trawler is anything one wants a boat to be.
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12-29-2017, 11:19 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 17,175
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From a long time ago Mark the # of engines has nothing to do w power.
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North Western Washington State USA
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12-30-2017, 12:20 AM
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Guru
City: Chocowinity NC
Vessel Name: My Yuki
Vessel Model: 1973 Marine Trader 34
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 635
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We must all have yachts....which is why there are Yacht Clubs everyplace. Has anybody ever heard of a Boat Club?
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12-30-2017, 12:59 AM
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#128
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,561
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Originally Posted by ARoss
We must all have yachts....which is why there are Yacht Clubs everyplace. Has anybody ever heard of a Boat Club?
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If it was termed just a "Boat" Club... fees would probably be 20 to 30% less than the faux importance of a more fancy implication name such as "Yacht" Club. 
Psychological nomenclature marketing... Because... People like to be helped to feel important, especially by scoring word-points on what they own . 
Nearly all of us on TF simply own pleasure boats. Nothing more and nothing less! 
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12-30-2017, 01:27 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Insequent
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 50 Mk I
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,913
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Well I've just re-joined a club that I was a member of back in the 1980's, and despite the name it's cheaper than the Yacht Club I have just resigned from.
Little Ship Club - Home
But I still think I own a boat, not a yacht or a (small) ship!
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12-30-2017, 01:49 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,561
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Insequent
Well I've just re-joined a club that I was a member of back in the 1980's, and despite the name it's cheaper than the Yacht Club I have just resigned from.
Little Ship Club - Home
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"Little Ship Club" That is cute!  
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12-30-2017, 02:15 AM
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#131
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,051
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In the unbiased view of the average non boat owner, any boat kept at a marina would be considered a yacht.
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12-30-2017, 02:16 AM
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Senior Member
City: Beaucette Marina
Country: Guernsey
Vessel Name: Play d'eau
Vessel Model: Fleming 55
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 283
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Originally Posted by AusCan
In the unbiased view of the average non boat owner, any boat kept at a marina would be considered a yacht.
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Including RIBs, Speedboats, Pontoon boats....?
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12-30-2017, 02:55 AM
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#133
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, now Bribie Island, Qld
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,165
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Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
PeterB,
Sailboats are obviously sailboats. Why would you want to call them by any other name? To raise their status of course if you call them a yacht. I could call my house a yacht too but it’s still a house. Very pretentious indeed.
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Not pretentious Eric, just more accurate, from an historical standpoint. You clearly missed this...
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy
The word 'yacht' is an anglization of the Dutch word 'Jacht' and was a single mast sailboat with fore and aft sails. 
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12-30-2017, 03:05 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, now Bribie Island, Qld
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
HaHa BandB,
Just jiv’in Peter. He knows most people call sailboats sailboats. Peter was just troll’in for a little “discussion”.
When in Rome ... probably 95% of us aren’t in the sailboat/yacht world. Yacht on TF is not a sailboat .... is it?
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No...actually Eric, this statement is wrong..."He knows most people call sailboats sailboats." The term sailboat is almost unique to the US, (maybe Canada). The trouble is, most folk who live in the US think what holds there, must, by definition, hold everywhere else. Not so, my friend, not so... 
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12-30-2017, 03:08 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, now Bribie Island, Qld
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,165
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Originally Posted by john61ct
Even a little dinghy like a laser?
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Yes, 'fraid so. If it has sails, it's a yacht. Period. In virtually all places other than the US, that is.
PS. In our part of the world, there is one two word term, that if mentioned, would basically explain what our type of boats are to most folk, and that is just the simple term 'Bay Cruiser'. This basically sums up Mark Pierce's definition above, while making clear it is not an ocean-crossing vessel.
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12-30-2017, 11:27 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,561
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Originally Posted by greatpapabear
Including RIBs, Speedboats, Pontoon boats....?
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A playful game named "Yacht" was invented to help enliven the boredom hours aboard boat in mid 20th Century... i.e. well before our 21st Century TV daze!
Eventually the "Yacht" game morphed into a titled and fully marketed game named "Yahtzee" - it all began on a " yacht", in 1952... Was it a 100' sailing "yacht", or, was it a small outboard cabin cruiser - I currently am unaware. 
According to Hasbro, the game was invented by an anonymous Canadian couple who called it "The Yacht Game" because they played it on their "yacht". Soon their boating friends asked for a copy of the game.
Thus - pleasure boating [yachting] is actually one big adult game... but, we all knew that already - didn't we???  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahtzee 
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12-30-2017, 11:48 AM
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#137
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Guru
City: Bay Saint Louis, Mississippi, (or where the anchor drops)
Country: USA
Vessel Model: 1973 42 Bertram MY
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,072
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We were waiting to lock through once, and when the lock opened, the tugboat in front of us called the lock master and said he was coming in, and added "and, I have a yacht behind me". One of my friends on the boat turned to me and said, "It's official, now. You have a yacht."
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12-30-2017, 12:02 PM
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#138
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 17,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter B
No...actually Eric, this statement is wrong..."He knows most people call sailboats sailboats." The term sailboat is almost unique to the US, (maybe Canada). The trouble is, most folk who live in the US think what holds there, must, by definition, hold everywhere else. Not so, my friend, not so... |
OK Peter,
I give up.
Ever heard that on TF?
Here’s a pic as a peace offering.
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North Western Washington State USA
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12-31-2017, 06:05 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, now Bribie Island, Qld
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
OK Peter,
I give up.
Ever heard that on TF?
Here’s a pic as a peace offering.
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No peace offering needed bros. We ain't at war...just having a robust debate.
Hey, that E-type jag looks a bit weird around the front, the lights are not standard. How do I know..? A friend had two of them, a manual and an auto. I never saw one that looked quite like that around the front. Were they modified for the US market..? S'posed to look like this...
Or...is it one of those Datsun 240Z E-Type lookabitalikes..?
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12-31-2017, 06:10 AM
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Senior Member
City: Beaucette Marina
Country: Guernsey
Vessel Name: Play d'eau
Vessel Model: Fleming 55
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter B
Hey, that E-type jag looks a bit weird around the front, the lights are not standard. How do I know..? A friend had two of them, a manual and an auto. I never saw one that looked quite like that around the front. Were they modified for the US market..?
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Agreed. The whole bonnet (hood?) seems wrong. Not e-type at all. I suspect it was in a major front-end crash and was modified thereafter. Correct?
But hey, this is a thread drift, so let's bring it back - are you saying that 'e-type' is a trawler or what?
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