what is this?

[Shoalwaters]

Hour meters sound nice and reassuring, but in most cases they are only 12 volt electric clocks. Hard to rewind, but relatively easy to disconnect or replace.

[bfloyd4445]

Originally Posted by Marin

Not quite RT. I'm saying no GBs were ever built in Taiwan, but I think you're smart enough to have known that already.

I had to read your remark several times before i realized that you are absolutly correct. GB's were and are still made in /Sinapore right?

[RT Firefly]

575...Go figure...

[Marin]

Originally Posted by bfloyd4445

so the engines only had 250 hours on them? wow, they were just broke in

That would have been nice. But actually they had about 1,450 hours on them. If you can master the math I bet you can figure out why.

[dhmeissner]

Originally Posted by bfloyd4445

oh yes it does, and all original equipment as built.It has aluminum tanks, mast and boom, solid glass stringers, cabin is a separate liner as is the engine room and lazerette no wood according to factory sales brochure one of which is in the boat. Windows of main salon not wood frames like so many of these boats are so there is no rot or leakage anywhere. Decks are solid glass with no slip surfaces and look almost new as does most of the boat except for the cushions and upholstery which is all original. Engine room has a flat floor part of the engine room liner with mouled in openings to gain access to the stringers below with nice teak or mahogany covers.
The 2007 survey lists it with twin engines but only has one seriel number and the hours on the survey are higher than on the hour meter. Before 2007 there is a good and complete maintenence record back to 1998 or there abouts. Boats had three owners.

The survey you commision should reveal any problems, no? Got any pictures to share?

[Marin]

Originally Posted by bfloyd4445

I had to read your remark several times before i realized that you are absolutly correct. GB's were and are still made in /Sinapore right?

All fiberglass GBs were made in Singapore until 1995 when the company opened a new yard across the strait from Singapore in Malaysia. After that GBs, Eastbays, and Aleutians were made in both locations. In some cases the hulls were molded in the Singapore yard and then towed across the narrow strait to be completed in the Malaysia yard.

I am not sure the Singapore yard is still operating. The lease on the land was due to run out which was part of the reason for establishing the larger yard in Malaysia. Grand Banks Llc still has a corporate office in Singapore as well as one in Malaysia but I suspect the Singapore yard itself is now closed. The company makes no mention of it in describing its current facilities on its website.

[Larry M]

Originally Posted by dhmeissner

Got any pictures to share?

Yes, come on and show us pictures or at least the link to the brokers listing.

[Delia Rosa]

Originally Posted by Marin

All Ford Lehman 120s were red when shipped from Lehman in New Jersey. I'm not sure what color the FL135s were when shipped but I believe they all had a chromed rocker box cover.

Ours are Ford Lehman 135s ....

[skipperdude]

Hey bfloyd4445.
Did you ever hit that little abc check on the top right of the box?
Your Posts are a little hard to read sometimes.

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. SD. Maybe he's "hitting" the ABC too much...

[skipperdude]

Alchol,baccie and chew?

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. SD. Alcoholic beverage control - encyclopedia article about Alcoholic beverage control.

[bfloyd4445]

Originally Posted by Marin

That would have been nice. But actually they had about 1,450 hours on them. If you can master the math I bet you can figure out why.

Marin, your post gave the impression that maybe the engines had been overhauled or replaced, the usual reason for reseting the hours meters. If you had taken a minute to think you would have understood the reason for my question.

[Marin]

No, one of the original hour meters had broken so both were replaced with new units. Since I've stated a bazillion times in all sorts of posts that our engines are original to the boat and have never been out of it or overhauled I figured I didn't need to say it yet again.

I don't think it's common to replace an hour meter when an engine is overhauled. The hour reading at the time of the overhaul is noted and entered in the maintenance log/owners manual but the meter(s) continue to be used. At least that's been the case with the airplanes I've dealt with and the few people I happen to know who had engines replaced or overhauled. They just carried on with the same hour meters.

But maybe it is more common than I think to replace an hour meter when an engine is overhauled or changed out.

[Craig Schreck]

Hour meters are only good for logging time for service, You cant judge engine condition by Hr meter, <example> One guys 1000 hrs is @ 3000 RPM while the next guys 1000 hrs is @ 1800, The 3000 RPM engine will have more ware, A fast and easy test for most small Diesels < under 500 cid > Requires a dial indicator with a magnetic base and a little muscle, with the engine off push the crank shaft in toward the stern, set up the dial indicator on the harmonic damper and zero the dial, pull the crank back forward and record the movement, check it to see if its within the thrust bearing specs, If its toward the larger end of the spec the engine has a lot of ware no matter what the hour meter states. This is very important to check on boats that the engine is installed on a steep angle, not so important with down angle gears.

[Craig Schreck]

Almost forgot... Hey Dan on the Delia Rosa... you might want to check the alignment on your starboard engine and look @ the outboard engine mounts, its hard to be sure form the picture but something doesn't look right

[bfloyd4445]

The old girl


upper helm station



My camera phone is goffy please excuse the color casts. This is the aft cabin hatch and one of the few areas of teak on this vessel


this is one of the doors to the main salon more teak. Most of the teak looks almost like new and on a 34 year old vessel.



another shot of the deck.



engine room liner floor with a piece of plywood scrap for what reason i don't know




Lazerette deck



come home motor pulley on main shaft. This is connected via a belt to a jack shaft which is connected to a 10hp electric motor powered by the generator via another dual belt system

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Might as well post the direct link as well.
Defever Down East Tri-Cabin Trawlers-1979-for sale San Pedro CA 100619755
This will give us all a bit better overall look...Looks pretty good in the pictures...

[markpierce]

Originally Posted by bfloyd4445

The old girl

Don't like wearing sunglasses. To reduce glare/brightness, had ordered the Coot with a straw-colored roof for the forward cabin.

[bfloyd4445]

Originally Posted by markpierce

Don't like wearing sunglasses. To reduce glare/brightness, had ordered the Coot with a straw-colored roof for the forward cabin.

But the Coot is a yatch so much larger than anything i could aford I can see why that would be neccessary. But your right, I have experianced problem with glare on boats before with too much white.

Hey, i just realized that the veiw in the picture you posted reminds me of a stripper hole down below Sherman Island