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Old 08-31-2021, 06:52 AM   #1
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Well...Signed a contract to build a Helmsman!

I really want to thank the people on this board. A number of you even got on the phone with me when I had questions. So awesome. After spending months researching I had it down to 2 boats. An American Tug and the Helmsman. Both great boats with great reputations as boats and for working with their customers, delivering and supporting them really well.

We had some weird requirements because of where I live. We live on Malletts Bay in Vermont. That means I'm on a big freshwater lake with max depth about 400 feet, and lots of shallow water. Our plan is to move to liveaboard 8 months a year and be home 4 months. And our access to other places is via canal or other tight waters. So I wanted a boat of 40 feet or less(if possible), that had two staterooms, a draft of 4 feet or less, a decent range (preferably at least 600 miles), a cummins diesel(our remoteness and current volvo make for difficulties), air draft capable of loop, an upper deck or bridge deck, and oddly, easy boarding for our two working dogs(Belgian Mal and German Shepherd who is old). There was some other stuff, but that's the big ones.

At the end, we really liked the layout and setup of the Helmsman 37 Sedan. A little less interior volume than the 38 or the American Tug 395, but easy walkarounds, good cockpit etc. Scott Helker is amazing to work with as well. So we signed and put a deposit down. Yay! Now I have to wait about 20 months.

Anyway, I'm excited and impatient. Thank you all VERY much for your help.

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Old 08-31-2021, 08:04 AM   #2
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Sounds like a great choice for that area. Congrats. BTW, we are land locked on the other side of the state.
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Old 08-31-2021, 11:37 AM   #3
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Congrats Newt. Looking forward to seeing some photos when construction starts.
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Old 08-31-2021, 11:48 AM   #4
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Congratulations Newt.

Great boat.

And I concur about working with Scott.
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Old 08-31-2021, 03:02 PM   #5
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Congratulations. You made a great choice. After months of research and discussions with knowledgeable friends, we elected to have a 38E built. Our build is scheduled to start next month.

We live in La Conner, WA, where American Tugs are built. The AT 41 was on the top of our list for a while. We just sold our 32 foot Bayliner and wanted to keep the forty foot slip which we can see from our house. The 41 would have required a new slip and they are now very scarce.

An auto accident three years ago cost my wife most of her right hand making steep ladders and docking poles almost impossible. The 38E is perfect for our reduced crew capability with its substantial rails, wide side decks and stairs to the fly bridge. The thrusters and easy dock access doors will make docking and undocking much easier.

We wanted better guest accommodations for our family and friends. The guest head and separate convertible sleeping areas in the salon and pilot house met that requirement perfectly without sacrificing space for cruising by ourselves.

Last weekend we spent several hours aboard a 38E owned by a couple we were put in touch with who just returned from cruising in Alaska. They shared a lot of great ideas and confirmed the wisdom of our decision. We felt very comfortable drinking wine and getting acquainted in their “living room”.

While we wait, we are continuing to gather information and make choices on things like electronics, tender and a perfect name. We are using our VR headsets and panoramic images to help imagine being aboard the new boat.
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Old 08-31-2021, 04:03 PM   #6
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Not sure I could make it through 20 months waiting for my next boat. My wife says I get bitchy after 3 weeks…
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Old 08-31-2021, 04:58 PM   #7
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Congrats! You will love it. We were just in Mallets Bay at Bay Harbor with our 43. Loved the lake!
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Old 08-31-2021, 05:10 PM   #8
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That’s a great looking boat, inside and out. Really nice.
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Old 08-31-2021, 05:38 PM   #9
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Congrats! You will love it. We were just in Mallets Bay at Bay Harbor with our 43. Loved the lake!
AdmiralS! I saw you guys! I live on the north point of the Marble Island Peninsula so I see every boat that goes through to the inner bay if I'm up on my deck. Loved it!

I mean I can't imagine there was another PH at around the same time. in 8 years, yours is the only Helmsman I've seen.
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Old 08-31-2021, 05:40 PM   #10
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While we wait, we are continuing to gather information and make choices on things like electronics, tender and a perfect name. We are using our VR headsets and panoramic images to help imagine being aboard the new boat.
OK, how are you doing that? That's really cool.
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Old 08-31-2021, 06:23 PM   #11
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Not sure I could make it through 20 months waiting for my next boat. My wife says I get bitchy after 3 weeks…
yeah i flat out could not do it. I prefer a two year prison sentence.

I waited in the anchorage airport 5 hours on a connection to see my boat for the first time that was brutal.
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Old 08-31-2021, 06:57 PM   #12
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With all respect to the OP, and congrats by the way, I would never enter into a 20 month build contract. I would be suicidal halfway there.
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Old 08-31-2021, 07:20 PM   #13
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With all respect to the OP, and congrats by the way, I would never enter into a 20 month build contract. I would be suicidal halfway there.
Try building a house. I've done that twice. It is every bit as long, and the number of choice decisions you have to make is massively more. Once you break ground you find yourself checking on it every night after work, sweating every small thing. Then you move in, and there remains so much more to be done.
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Old 08-31-2021, 07:30 PM   #14
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I found some panoramic images on the web and open them in an app using an HP Reverb G2 headset. It feels like being in the boat. It will have to do until next spring.
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Old 08-31-2021, 09:21 PM   #15
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Great choice. A lot of boat packed into a great package.

Please bring us along during the build photos. Lots of knowledgeable folks here who can encourage and advise.

Me? I just like to look at boat photos...
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Old 08-31-2021, 09:39 PM   #16
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Congratulations ! We enjoy ours enough that we are shipping it back east to do the great loop.
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Old 08-31-2021, 10:13 PM   #17
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Drop dead gorgeous Boat.I don’t know how you could possibly wait 20 months but that’s been said .I love sedan styled trawlers ,I’d swap the flybridge or a pilot house ,enjoy your boat
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Old 09-01-2021, 06:52 AM   #18
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Haha. A lot of you mention the 20 months. And yeah it's tough. I still have my little Beneteau Swift, which is fine for now. But yeah, wish I didn't have to wait.
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Old 09-06-2021, 03:09 PM   #19
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Congrats. Looking forward to pictures of the build and the boat.

So... I assume you didn't check the "on-board security system" since your Belgian Mal and German Shepard will be taking over those duties!
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Old 09-06-2021, 05:22 PM   #20
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I really want to thank the people on this board. A number of you even got on the phone with me when I had questions. So awesome. After spending months researching I had it down to 2 boats. An American Tug and the Helmsman. Both great boats with great reputations as boats and for working with their customers, delivering and supporting them really well.

We had some weird requirements because of where I live. We live on Malletts Bay in Vermont. That means I'm on a big freshwater lake with max depth about 400 feet, and lots of shallow water. Our plan is to move to liveaboard 8 months a year and be home 4 months. And our access to other places is via canal or other tight waters. So I wanted a boat of 40 feet or less(if possible), that had two staterooms, a draft of 4 feet or less, a decent range (preferably at least 600 miles), a cummins diesel(our remoteness and current volvo make for difficulties), air draft capable of loop, an upper deck or bridge deck, and oddly, easy boarding for our two working dogs(Belgian Mal and German Shepherd who is old). There was some other stuff, but that's the big ones.

At the end, we really liked the layout and setup of the Helmsman 37 Sedan. A little less interior volume than the 38 or the American Tug 395, but easy walkarounds, good cockpit etc. Scott Helker is amazing to work with as well. So we signed and put a deposit down. Yay! Now I have to wait about 20 months.

Anyway, I'm excited and impatient. Thank you all VERY much for your help.

Newt
Best boat on the market. Congratulations! Folks that pick this boat know what they are doing. And you are right, Scott is a top shelf individual to deal with. That is why there is a wait. Keep us up with how the build is going.
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