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02-12-2018, 05:10 PM
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#121
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 26,852
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My son is at a college campus, he's a bit older after 6 years in the Navy...
Visited him and spent some time in the Veterans room...they didnt have a lot of good things to say about the regular college kids...
Sure there are good ones, but if we keep setting the bar lower for an entire group...then of course many might seem great.
Just spent time with a young owner of a TMobile store....her young employee just cost her a $2000 fine from the company because....well.... coming to work on time and opening the store on time...well man...is it THAT important? He's gone.
So one good and one bad....like every generation right? Not when you ask her how easy it is to get good employees.
I remember calling a few kids slugs in my day...but it seems much more rampant among peers these days.
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02-12-2018, 05:33 PM
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#122
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,280
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Wifey B: Are the ones with the arrows in their back not the deceased? 
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Some die and some recover. But over all, progress is made.
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02-12-2018, 05:47 PM
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#123
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,280
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This is an example how news reports "grow." The Miami TV station reports tonight, it will cost $6700 to get the boat ashore for salvage.
IMO they will need to remove all the wiring, flush the inside with fresh water and rewire the entire boat. If not, they will be chasing corrosion problems forever.
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02-12-2018, 05:52 PM
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#124
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Scraping Paint
City: CT
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 963
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They'll raise enough to buy a better boat, maybe even pay for a survey on it 8-)
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02-12-2018, 08:28 PM
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#125
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Guru
City: Madisonville, LA
Vessel Name: Sea Star
Vessel Model: 2004 Cruisers Yachts 50SS
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 906
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I saw a headline earlier that said they’ve already raised over $11k.
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02-12-2018, 08:45 PM
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#126
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Senior Member
City: St James City/Punta Gorda
Vessel Name: Charlie Noble
Vessel Model: 32 Nordic Tug
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 424
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Star0210
I saw a headline earlier that said they’ve already raised over $11k.
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13,906 so far tonight
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02-12-2018, 09:03 PM
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#127
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,300
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
This is an example how news reports "grow." The Miami TV station reports tonight, it will cost $6700 to get the boat ashore for salvage.
IMO they will need to remove all the wiring, flush the inside with fresh water and rewire the entire boat. If not, they will be chasing corrosion problems forever.
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Didn’t it roll over in fresh water?
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02-12-2018, 09:28 PM
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#128
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Senior Member
City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Selkie
Vessel Model: Canoe Cove 41
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donsan
Didn’t it roll over in fresh water?
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Well, it's kind of unfortunate that people are rewarded for their stupidity. MurrayM posed the question, is it better to help your kids out, or let them live at home to save money? Well, I'm all for giving them money if you can afford it. Our older son, married last June, along with his wonderful new wife, just purchased their first home. We gave them 20K, her folks gave them the same. They saved 60k themselves. The home cost a shocking $600k. They can afford it, based on his income alone, because he is a well educated and very highly paid Millenial. Perhaps it depends on the type of business what type of recruits you get.
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02-13-2018, 12:06 AM
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#129
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Guru
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,089
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Hi
These dummy seamen surpassed the news threshold in Finland. Obviously, they have already received +13000$ in FB collection and think of a new boat.
Hope to learn something here, for the sea is not merciful to stupid people  .
understand if you are a beginner, then you can not know everything but you should be humble and take basic navigational things clear, they had GPS and paper maps, I do not know if the chartplotter was, but obviously, other than navigating.
NBs
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02-13-2018, 12:09 AM
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#130
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by North Baltic sea
Hi
These dummy seamen surpassed the news threshold in Finland. Obviously, they have already received +13000$ in FB collection and think of a new boat.
Hope to learn something here, for the sea is not merciful to stupid people  .
understand if you are a beginner, then you can not know everything but you should be humble and take basic navigational things clear, they had GPS and paper maps, I do not know if the chartplotter was, but obviously, other than navigating.
NBs
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Some sailors regularly encourage newbies to just do it, just get a boat and go.
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02-13-2018, 12:36 AM
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#131
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Guru
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,089
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Some sailors regularly encourage newbies to just do it, just get a boat and go.
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But now they are already experienced sailors  , few of us have the experience of a sink boat and emergency escape from the mercy of the sea.
Seriously speaking, as here some have talked about YouTube boaters can get the wrong impression of the worry-free sea life and it can encourage them to take unconscious risks.
NBs
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02-13-2018, 03:28 AM
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#132
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,215
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I'm sure all of us from the baby boomer generation took far more risks than this millineum generation ever considered.
Now we are all criticising the young and reckless for going out in a boat that costs them there life's savings, because it is not good enough.
It's funny how one's perception changes as we age.
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02-13-2018, 03:43 AM
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#133
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Guru
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,089
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AusCan
I'm sure all of us from the baby boomer generation took far more risks than this millineum generation ever considered.
Now we are all criticising the young and reckless for going out in a boat that costs them there life's savings, because it is not good enough.
It's funny how one's perception changes as we age.
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I was also wondering what if these young people were really smart, at this time they became famous even in Finland Certainly elsewhere a round world, and the money is already more collected by the face B campaign. What if this money collection had been planned, time to show how much people are sorry for? In the future, block followers around the country and a small cash flow and live a dream.
I would not be wondering if they would succeed in getting $ 50-100,000 for the shame of money from people, similar examples exist.
NBs
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02-13-2018, 03:56 AM
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#134
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,215
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I'm fairly sure it wasn't planned to raise money. This generation just has a completely different attitude towards money from what we do. They are far less greedy. Our generation will likely be known as the most greedy generation since the Roman Empire. This generation will change that way of thinking.
Sharing wealth may seem crazy to us baby boomers, but there are many who feel it is a good thing.
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02-13-2018, 06:06 AM
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#135
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 26,852
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Maybe baby boomers just had WWI grandparents that survived the great US depression, and parents that survived WWII and its rationing and fallout that beat into us boomers to get educated, work vhard and save, save, save.
They never taught me to be greedy, just not stupid with my money.
I would gladly buy these people some food, clothes and a motel room for a bit (1 star).... based on their life performance so far, handing them money is just irresponsible.
That is why many In the US arent happy how our government does it.
As far as kids doing it now and and not boomers, its might be risk, but foolish risk is different.....but I will say, no better than the boomers who wont quit their jobs and are too old to really enjoy their dreams.
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02-13-2018, 06:29 AM
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#136
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Dauntless Award
City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,812
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Social media will be the bane of this generation and many to come until our culture realizes the dangers.
FB was the cause of 90% of the physical fights students got into in my high school (that majority were girls).
It amplifies bullying exponentially.
It distracts children from things they should be doing to enhance their communication skills.
it goes on and on.
Too many adults justify it bey saying they are not harmed and can control it.
They forget that they learned the basics before this became so prevalent.
But I'm just pissing in the wind. It's a reason I'm on Dauntless and no longer trying to do contribute to society.
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02-13-2018, 07:09 AM
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#137
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Guru
City: Signal Mtn., TN
Vessel Name: Stella Maris
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wxx3
But I'm just pissing in the wind. It's a reason I'm on Dauntless and no longer trying to do contribute to society.
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Well, you’re pissing in good company. Pretty much every generation in recorded history has felt that “the kids” are going to end civilization as we know it.
BBC - Capital - People have always whinged about young adults. Here's proof
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02-13-2018, 07:43 AM
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#138
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,096
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Greetings,
Mr. Wxx... BINGO!!! You've hit the nail squarely on the ole' noggin!
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/tech...ticle37511900/
...and I forecast it's going to get MUCH worse. The Admiral is nagging me to get one of them there smart phones. Says I HAVE to get one. Hell, TF is bad enough.
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02-13-2018, 07:57 AM
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#139
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Guru
City: Palm Coast, FL
Vessel Name: Coquina
Vessel Model: Lagoon 380
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,505
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. Wxx... BINGO!!! You've hit the nail squarely on the ole' noggin!
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/tech...ticle37511900/
...and I forecast it's going to get MUCH worse. The Admiral is nagging me to get one of them there smart phones. Says I HAVE to get one. Hell, TF is bad enough.
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I"ve got two girls in high school. Pretty much the worst case scenario for a parent. Phones are a widely divergent mixed bag for the kids and parents. Although, there is this one app. Life360 (phone tracking)
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02-13-2018, 08:34 AM
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#140
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diver dave
I"ve got two girls in high school. Pretty much the worst case scenario for a parent. Phones are a widely divergent mixed bag for the kids and parents. Although, there is this one app. Life360 (phone tracking) 
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Wifey B: You learn to use the tools available properly. No one in our extended family uses social media. However, we all have smart phones. With GPS, we're never lost. With phone in hand we can always be reached or reach others and we can always be found. If we see something happen or we're in an accident, we always have photos.
Prior generations, daughter not home when expected, no way to know what was going on so instant panic if a parent.
Again, in our business with many young people, we warn and advise regarding social media. We give the stark realities including that you can be disciplined and fired over what you post. We also warn that with everyone carrying a camera, nothing you do is a secret. You flash your b... on Bourbon Street, you get drunk at a party, smoke some weed at one, make out with someone other than your spouse or partner, it will be known. The bad is the loss of privacy. The good is the loss of secrecy of activity. The old saying to think before acting of what if your mother saw you do it, well today she probably will see.
New times. New ways to adjust and handle them. Use the positive changes and don't allow the negative to reach you.
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