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Old 02-10-2018, 06:25 PM   #41
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... she has already said "what if the boat sinks". ...
Ask her "What's happens if the house burns down?"
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Likely didn't spend the grand or so a proper survey costs, penny wise pound foolish.

I'd bet keel bolts failed after 60 years
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Ask her "What's happens if the house burns down?"
Another Go Fund Me project. Most likely no insurance on the house either.
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There are hundreds just like this couple on the East Coast, let alone the west coast and wherever.

Just cruising through Flirida you see most of the popukar anchorages half full of barely seaworthy, even mastless sailboats with gosh knows what tied alongside to make living aboard tolerable.

So this couple was hardly the total exception.....its a reoccurring issue that has far reaching ramifications for all cruisers.
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Old 02-10-2018, 07:55 PM   #45
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Ask her "What's happens if the house burns down?"
I'll use that one next. we have to pay everything off for it to work anyway . around 5 years
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This situation gives millenials a bad name! I know a lot of people think that millenials are a coddled generation but I think it depends how you raise them. My two sons are millenials and are both very hardworking and successful. They started working in our family business when they were 13 or so. Had to save 50% of every $1. Put themselves through University with a bit of help, and have excellent jobs. The couple mentioned in this thread are just not cut from the same cloth...
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Here's a video of some millenials...

https://youtu.be/GKm460QWupM

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This situation gives millenials a bad name! I know a lot of people think that millenials are a coddled generation but I think it depends how you raise them. My two sons are millenials and are both very hardworking and successful. They started working in our family business when they were 13 or so. Had to save 50% of every $1. Put themselves through University with a bit of help, and have excellent jobs. The couple mentioned in this thread are just not cut from the same cloth...
Millennial's...

I''m sorry but they may someday be known as the worst generation.

The previous administration even changed the age limit so the worthless piece of crap kids that fail to launch and still live in their parents basement can get health care from the folks until 26? WFT!.

I had 1 person out of all the people I went to school that still lived at home until he was 25.. the rest of us ALL got on with our lives and became productive human beings.

About half of the kids my oldest daughter went through school with either never moved out.. of moved back in after college. ( Mine attended the USAF Academy and is a now serving officer in our military) The other is finishing College early and headed to Med school.

I run a Construction company and cannot find kids that want to learn a skill and make something of themselves.. Every and I do mean EVERY prospective under 35 year old I have ever interviewed wants to tell me what their work hours will be.. and that they expect to start around
$ 25.00 per hour .. to do the lowest entry level work in residential construction.

I'm sure this comes off as a rant but I truly believe we are headed for trouble if the next generation doesn't get it figured out.

As for the couple that the thread was about, I take no issue with someone setting out on their "dream", as long as they do it to not burden the rest of us when they get in trouble.. and dont start a "go fund me" account to pay for their ill preparedness and stupidity.

When the Admiral and I crossed the Pacific in the early 90's there were plenty of boats that were on a almost non existent budget ( the two guys that sailed to the Marquesas with only 1 fork and 1 spoon in their 24' boat because they couldn't each afford one come to mind). But they all assumed the risk .. and didn't expect the world to help them get out of a tight spot.
I think the couple that lost the boat close to shore got lucky .. if they went offshore they may have never of been seen again.
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Millennial's...

I''m sorry but they may someday be known as the worst generation.

The previous administration even changed the age limit so the worthless piece of crap kids that fail to launch and still live in their parents basement can get health care from the folks until 26? WFT!.

I had 1 person out of all the people I went to school that still lived at home until he was 25.. the rest of us ALL got on with our lives and became productive human beings.

About half of the kids my oldest daughter went through school with either never moved out.. of moved back in after college. ( Mine attended the USAF Academy and is a now serving officer in our military) The other is finishing College early and headed to Med school.

I run a Construction company and cannot find kids that want to learn a skill and make something of themselves.. Every and I do mean EVERY prospective under 35 year old I have ever interviewed wants to tell me what their work hours will be.. and that they expect to start around
$ 25.00 per hour .. to do the lowest entry level work in residential construction.

I'm sure this comes off as a rant but I truly believe we are headed for trouble if the next generation doesn't get it figured out.

As for the couple that the thread was about, I take no issue with someone setting out on their "dream", as long as they do it to not burden the rest of us when they get in trouble.. and dont start a "go fund me" account to pay for their ill preparedness and stupidity.

When the Admiral and I crossed the Pacific in the early 90's there were plenty of boats that were on a almost non existent budget ( the two guys that sailed to the Marquesas with only 1 fork and 1 spoon in their 24' boat because they couldn't each afford one come to mind). But they all assumed the risk .. and didn't expect the world to help them get out of a tight spot.
I think the couple that lost the boat close to shore got lucky .. if they went offshore they may have never of been seen again.
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fact is when broken down every single generation has been proven to be inept by the incoming generation.. Such is the march of progress.

Naming the incoming generation by the former is part of it.. Being oblivious to the tide of progress is also part of it.
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I agree that they were foolish and maybe naive. But considering/remembering some of the stunts my friends and I pulled, and now look back at and thank our lucky stars we are still here through no skill of our own, give them a break.

They were saved, got the dog, and are young enough they will learn and go on.

His last words were, "Here, hold my beer and watch this."
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I look at all these beautiful boats and the prices. I realize how much I paid for my boat and think, either I paid too much or there is a lot of 'hidden' work or upgrades needing to be done.
My 34 foot boat might be considered a 'tea cup' compared to these boats and I sure would like 5 more feet but, I am satisfied.
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Insurance settlement?

Those GoFund Me pages make me wonder. Will they buy another boat or just call it a done deal, pocket the money and move on with life??
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Ok, a gofundme account has been set up and some donations made. I looked at it last night and there was already $500.
People also can make comments on the account. Let's just say the vast majority were not kind.
The couple said, the account is just to get enough money to salvage the boat. CG told them they had to get it out of the water as it is a hazard and the cost to remove is on their dime. Estimate was as high as $10,000.

Couple has said they can't wait to try this again and are already looking for a boat they can pick up for little, if any money.

These people sold everything they had, spent $5000 for the boat and another $5000 to fix it up. Boat was well stocked and they were headed for the keys and they had a full $90 to spend on their adventure
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I think if I donate any money it will be to mercy chefs or something else like that
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Well, I was willing to excuse their oopsie and put it down to the exuberance of youth BUT if they're going to go at it again, I'd diagnose insanity. No $$ from me.

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We did, however, spend several years reading all we could and earning our 'chops'...

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That hitting "something" can happen to any of use. The N46 hit "something" in the ICW with no damage. At least if would have been a short swim to shore.
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Millennial's...

I''m sorry but they may someday be known as the worst generation.

The previous administration even changed the age limit so the worthless piece of crap kids that fail to launch and still live in their parents basement can get health care from the folks until 26? WFT!.

I had 1 person out of all the people I went to school that still lived at home until he was 25.. the rest of us ALL got on with our lives and became productive human beings.

About half of the kids my oldest daughter went through school with either never moved out.. of moved back in after college. ( Mine attended the USAF Academy and is a now serving officer in our military) The other is finishing College early and headed to Med school.

I run a Construction company and cannot find kids that want to learn a skill and make something of themselves.. Every and I do mean EVERY prospective under 35 year old I have ever interviewed wants to tell me what their work hours will be.. and that they expect to start around
$ 25.00 per hour .. to do the lowest entry level work in residential construction.

I'm sure this comes off as a rant but I truly believe we are headed for trouble if the next generation doesn't get it figured out.
I apologize up front, as a never respond to drivel like this, but as the father of a millennial, feel the need to respond.

I can't comment on the kids you see as potential new hires. You see who you see, but what you post is not reflective of a whole generation of kids.

I am very proud of my daughter. Despite having some personal difficulties, see graduated last spring from an honors college, and begins a new job as a civilian employee working for the Coast Guard next week. I have come to meet many of my daughter's friends at college and they are upstanding kids, who I have no doubt will make this country a better place. Does this mean that all millennials are hard-working, no, but that isn't any different than our generation either.

Regarding making health insurance available to children under 26, I think this is a great idea. My daughter was 23 when she graduated college. If I am paying extra to have her insured on my health insurance plan, why should you even care???

Oh, the horror of kids moving back home.

Thirty-six years ago, after I graduated college, I didn't have a job and moved back into my parents house. Even after I got a job I lived at home for another two years. Gotta tell ya, my Mom was sad when I moved out! Guess that makes me a freeloader (By the way, I have had a pretty successful career, went to grad school in the evenings, and have a great family myself).

My daughter will be following in her old man's footsteps. She will live with us for a couple of years while getting her career established and building her savings. Do you approve? Really, I don't care.

I don't think millennials (as a whole) have to figure anything out. Like any generation before them, they are a wide variety of individuals.

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I'm guilty of more than a few "ill prepared" adventures in my 20's. Aren't we all?
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