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Old 11-13-2020, 02:10 PM   #1
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Are We Getting Invaded?' U.S. Boats Faced Russian Aggression Near Alaska

Interesting Read on Russian Aggression in the Bearing Sea.


https://news.yahoo.com/getting-invad...wer&soc_trk=ma
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Old 11-13-2020, 02:27 PM   #2
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The Russia testing airspace thing is nothing new. They do it to us, we do it to them, and it's been going on for a long time. It definitely seems like they're getting a bit more pushy in general though.
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The Russia testing airspace thing is nothing new. They do it to us, we do it to them, and it's been going on for a long time. It definitely seems like they're getting a bit more pushy in general though.
Aircraft yes. I was at the alert cells launching intercepts in another life.

What is alarming is the Russians, with in our economic zone chasing commercial fishing boats out of the area. This is new to some degree.

Even more alarming is the USCG's response if the write-up is true.
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Which should be expected given the somewhat unstable conditions these days.
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John does allowing them to violate our rights to a high degree .. making us look like fools the right thing to do? One could say WWIII has not yet started yet but one could say that when/it happens Russia will be able to move lots more bombers and other war hardware much closer to our populous areas and thus do far more damage.

That could make us dead at the end of the day. One could say are we better off dead tomorrow that bloodied today?
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Aircraft yes. I was at the alert cells launching intercepts in another life.

What is alarming is the Russians, with in our economic zone chasing commercial fishing boats out of the area. This is new to some degree.

Even more alarming is the USCG's response if the write-up is true.
Not sure I get the outrage. The story seems to say that the incidents are occurring outside any waters where we claim any sovereignty (other than fishing rights).

We actually do similar activities with "mobile restricted areas" over our carrier task groups. While the Russians sound obnoxious, they are, after all, Russians.
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Alaska Prof,
You checked all the right boxes.

I thought they were in our waters.
But our waters don’t go far enough if they're going to regularly play war games on the edge. It’s obvious they wouldn’t be there if we wern’t on the other side. I’m concerned because as soon as we get use-to this what next? ..... and they up the ante every time.

Well eventually they will (if we let them) be playing war games (exercises) off the coast of JuanDefuca. And one day several bombers will stray east down the strait and before we decide what to do the’ll be firing atomic bomb missiles at Seattle/Boeing.
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Those are just the ones you know about...
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The US State Department should be involved at a high level. When the Russians tell us ahead of time they are going to run military exercises in our economic zone, the answer should be NYET! if possible, and if not, then a clear warning that under no circumstances is any US economic endeavor to be interfered with. Then we tell them that it is likely that a US submarine and a destroyer may be on hand to enforce the dictate. It's not warmongering for those who might shrink from confrontation, it's simply not putting up with this BS. I have spent some time looking down the barrel of a loaded 5-inch gun at a pest of a Russian warship, and I know they respect only power.
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When I was on St Lawrence Island on a icebreaker trip....we toured the National Guard unit there and it had a map noting all kinds of Russian activity, including possible landings on the island back in the 80's.


St Lawrence island is at the North end of the Bearing Sea, quite close to Russia.
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"Atomic bomb missles"...... sounds like Hollywood script.
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Tipping my hat to this Russian who could think for himself under a wee bit of pressure. Must have been the longest 23 minutes in his life!

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...rld-dies-at-77
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I’m concerned because as soon as we get use-to this what next? ..... and they up the ante every time.

Well eventually they will (if we let them) be playing war games (exercises) off the coast of JuanDefuca. And one day several bombers will stray east down the strait and before we decide what to do the’ll be firing atomic bomb missiles at Seattle/Boeing.
Puh leez! Ya might have to get Maverick up there, inverted, to let them Russkies know what's what
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I bet the US wishes that Adak was still commissioned.
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Puh leez! Ya might have to get Maverick up there, inverted, to let them Russkies know what's what
Eric was obviously exaggerating to make a point; Russians will just keep pushing, like all bullies.
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I bet the US wishes that Adak was still commissioned.
When was it decommissioned?


Spent some time there back in the early 90's.
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Tipping my hat to this Russian who could think for himself under a wee bit of pressure. Must have been the longest 23 minutes in his life!

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...rld-dies-at-77

I have heard there were multiple false alarms or triggers on both sides where cool heads prevailed.


The people in the trenches knew what the end game would be if the information went too far or to the wrong people.
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