Wakemakers

[FF]

Sadly docking is sometimes taught to new boaters , but how to pass is not.

With proper techniques there is NO need for a boat to slow down to be passed ,

if the passer is has practiced his passing technique .

Many folks will turn off their radios after all day of hearing nonsense about slowing down.

[dhays]

Originally Posted by FF

Sadly docking is sometimes taught to new boaters , but how to pass is not.

With proper techniques there is NO need for a boat to slow down to be passed ,

if the passer is has practiced his passing technique .

Many folks will turn off their radios after all day of hearing nonsense about slowing down.

I’ve never been taught this and would be very interested in hearing how it is done.

[psneeld]

1. keep speed till nearly abeam the passed vessel.
2. chop throttles till rpm about what you need to be a couple knots faster than passed vessel.
3. let momentum carry you ahead of the vessel.
4. hopefully the passed vessel sees his move to cut in behind you over a not so large wake, you help by moving into his old path...
5. once in, passing vehicle can resume speed.

[caltexflanc]

1. keep speed till nearly abeam the passed vessel.

Your bow wake, which is your primary wake, will overtake them if you do that. Remember you are going faster than they are by definition.

[psneeld]

well, nearly is the operative word where different boats and speed combos do require a little experience to guess the right spot and how fast to close the throttle.

having done it thousands of times and watched other pro captains and a few rec captains do it plenty...done right it works and is way more pleasant for all than a bad slow pass.

plus it is a close aboard manuever where a bow wave, if big, is on their quarter. While maybe noticeable, not uncomfortable.

[Alaskan Sea-Duction]

Originally Posted by CanadianBoater

U Then Industry Canada the regulatory authority for radios in Canada also got involved. He was fined, lost his radio license, and had his radio removed from his boat. If you don't think it is taken serious, just keep up the cursing till the authorities come deal with you to. .

Maybe in CANADA, but not in the USA. So your position on "authorities will come deal with me" is irrelevant.

I agree with others CB you are blaming the wrong party.

[markpierce]

Originally Posted by psneeld

1. keep speed till nearly abeam the passed vessel.
2. chop throttles till rpm about what you need to be a couple knots faster than passed vessel.
3. let momentum carry you ahead of the vessel.
4. hopefully the passed vessel sees his move to cut in behind you over a not so large wake, you help by moving into his old path...
5. once in, passing vehicle can resume speed.

About the only time we overtake other boats, they are anchored.

[Alaskan Sea-Duction]

Originally Posted by markpierce

About the only time we overtake other boats, they are anchored.

100%

[Mule]

. Yup!

[dhays]

Originally Posted by psneeld

1. keep speed till nearly abeam the passed vessel.
2. chop throttles till rpm about what you need to be a couple knots faster than passed vessel.
3. let momentum carry you ahead of the vessel.
4. hopefully the passed vessel sees his move to cut in behind you over a not so large wake, you help by moving into his old path...
5. once in, passing vehicle can resume speed.

Thanks.



Of course, I'm with Mark. I am very rarely the one to pass someone else. Interesting to know about the technique though.

[caltexflanc]

Originally Posted by psneeld

well, nearly is the operative word where different boats and speed combos do require a little experience to guess the right spot and how fast to close the throttle.

having done it thousands of times and watched other pro captains and a few rec captains do it plenty...done right it works and is way more pleasant for all than a bad slow pass.

plus it is a close aboard manuever where a bow wave, if big, is on their quarter. While maybe noticeable, not uncomfortable.

I have been on the giving and receiving ends of this maneuver many many times, mostly the latter. Happens to us at least once week here in Morehead City harbor even now. Boats steaming in from the inlet or north bound ICW cutting speed at close quarters right at the beginning of the no wake zone. Many professional captains of all sorts of craft. In thousands of miles of narrow channel cruising, be it the ICW, various rivers or the California Delta, I cannot recall anyone pulling this off with kind results.

Most people can readily practice this and see for themselves, at the border of a no wake zone say, but even in open water, preferably using a buoy instead of another boater as the guinea pig. The buoy is stationary though, unlike a moving boat so it is not exactly the same because you have to make much higher speed to get by the moving boat.

That bow wake comes right up on their stern and yaws the boat, then exacerbated as it hits the quarter. And while you're at it, see how much "glide" room your boat can cover once the throttles are chopped.

[psneeld]

Can be done and others on here agree.....

Do it right and it works...and yes you have to know your boat and its wake...and also not every boat can do it every time.

But it does work for most planing boats I have run up to 50 feet.

[toocoys]

I wonder if some of you complain this much when you drive through a pot hole on the street.

[psneeld]

I would if a bunch of my neighbors were out in the street continuously making them on purpose....

[tpbrady]

I got waked today by a 34 foot charter boat doing about 18 knots between 60 and 80 feet off my starboard side in a narrow passage. Texted a friend who knew the lodge owner who told the lodge the boat name and time. Within 20 minutes I got a call from the operations manager at the lodge apologizing for the captain and saying he would handle it. Since I had been part owner of a charter business in the past, I told him I understood that captains sometimes don't make the best decisions and all was good.

Tom

[toocoys]

bwahahahahahahah!!!!! a very literal interpretation of this thread!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf3Kkclo6j4

[FF]

"Your bow wake, which is your primary wake, will overtake them if you do that. "Remember you are going faster than they are by definition."

Usually (but not always) the passing boat will be larger than the boat being passed.

The difference in WL means there may easily be a 1K difference in unity (the sq rt of the LWL ) speed where there is little wake.

Passing a 40ft boat only 1K slower does not take as long as blithering on the radio or slow the boat being passed,

[Art]

Originally Posted by FF

"Your bow wake, which is your primary wake, will overtake them if you do that. "Remember you are going faster than they are by definition."

Usually (but not always) the passing boat will be larger than the boat being passed.

The difference in WL means there may easily be a 1K difference in unity (the sq rt of the LWL ) speed where there is little wake.

Passing a 40ft boat only 1K slower does not take as long as blithering on the radio or slow the boat being passed,

When passing boat is sufficiently longer and passed boat is doing hull speed or less that is true and a good plan! However, in my experience those two items do not often coincide.

[Art]

Originally Posted by toocoys

bwahahahahahahah!!!!! a very literal interpretation of this thread!!!

Looks/sounds like a bunch of immature fishermen with too much energy while not understanding nor knowing a constructive way to release it. Stupid is as stupid does!

I recall in grade school having weekend bouts such as that regarding stick ball areas of play in back of the school... or which group got to the outdoor basketball black hoop first. Immature is as immature does!

[Mule]

Originally Posted by toocoys

I wonder if some of you complain this much when you drive through a pot hole on the street.

In light of previous comments, I think you have made it clear who one boater is on the water that accepts no responsibility for waking others. Not to worry, I no longer get caught in traffic in Webster-NASA, fish East Bay or the South Jetty. Nor wait hours for the Bolivar ferry.
My Problens are now on East Coast, and there are plenty of WAKERS here. definitely not confined to Kemah and surrounding area.