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09-07-2017, 08:47 AM
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City: Vermont
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That's a really big tender for a 45 trawler. He must have been towing it? I'm scratching my head over this one.
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09-07-2017, 02:28 PM
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City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedtree
I'm scratching my head over this one.
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Why? It seems pretty straightforward to me. Boat hits submerged object & taking on water. Skipper calls for help, abandons his boat and goes into his dinghy & waits for help to arrive. Help comes, they take him aboard and tow in his dinghy.
People often tow large dinghies in the PNW. What's causing the head shaking?
Not being argumentative, just curious.
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09-07-2017, 03:03 PM
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City: Greenwich, CT
Join Date: Mar 2015
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I think Twisted's point ...
is that a 17' tender on a 45' trawler is an odd combo as the tender is 37.8% as long as the trawler.
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09-07-2017, 03:10 PM
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City: Sioux Falls, South Dakota
Vessel Name: Xanadu
Vessel Model: Mainship 37 Motor Yacht
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird Dog
is that a 17' tender on a 45' trawler is an odd combo as the tender is 37.8% as long as the trawler.
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Let's see - we use a 9 foot dingy on a 40 foot loa boat. 22.5%. A 37.8% equivalent for our boat would be a 15' tender or dingy. Yes, that would be very big given our boat's size. Huh. Never thought of the size ratio in those terms.
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09-07-2017, 03:16 PM
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City: Cleveland
Vessel Name: Irishland
Vessel Model: Chris Craft Corinthian 380
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Wow! The poor Fella. Damn shame.
Cheers.
H.
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09-07-2017, 03:25 PM
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City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DHeckrotte
...Everybody's nightmare. This fellow was evidently well prepared.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hfoster
Wow! The poor Fella. Damn shame...
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From the article, it sounds like he was lucky he was towing. The accident was after dark and he may have lost consciousness. Not the best time to be trying to launch a dinghy and abandoning a boat by yourself.
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09-07-2017, 04:01 PM
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City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Soon I'm going to have a 12' tender on a 30' boat.
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09-07-2017, 05:31 PM
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City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Relative volume can be a consideration.
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09-07-2017, 06:57 PM
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City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
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I always watch ahead, everywhere. Lot more debris in the water since I was commercial fishing. It can't be all from Japan. I winter on a river and see many semi submerged logs go by. Once a small tree standing straight up, turned out to be a branch with the whole tree underwater. Also a couple trees, anchored by their roots, bobbing up and under from the current, gradually working downstream. CG not interested. 40' steel launch service boat had one come up as they were passing over. Took out shaft, strut, and rudder on one side.
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09-07-2017, 07:03 PM
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City: Anacortes
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Bet he has a lot of insurance
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09-07-2017, 07:03 PM
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City: Vermont
Join Date: Jan 2013
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I'm just really skeptical of people. That's a large tender to be towing for a 45' boat out in open water, 10 miles off shore. Not unheard of, but definitely at the fringe. And a convenient escape vessel. And a convenient bump on the head so one can't answer any questions about what happened.
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09-07-2017, 07:54 PM
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City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Before questioning his tender size, I'd want to know a lot more info. Like--did he often tow a tender? That size tender? Did he often boat by himself? Where was he headed and where did he start?
I agree lots of questions here but I'd hesitate to jump to any conclusions without that missing info.
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09-07-2017, 08:37 PM
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City: St Augustine,Fl
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Wow,speculation abounds. Maybe he was prepared with a ditch bag,etc like we all kind of preach? Maybe just a trawler owner/operator who had a boat go out from under him and was prepared for an emergency situation.
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09-07-2017, 09:11 PM
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City: Seattle
Vessel Name: AZZURRA
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 54
Join Date: Aug 2017
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There are a lot of unanswered questions with this incedent. Location suggest he was doing an over night transit alone or looking for a good place to scuddle a boat unobserved. Being knocked uncouncious and holing a trawler suggest hitting something very large. A log or dead head is not likely to knock someone off their feet. This leaves whale or container, both possible but not heard of this happening in this area before.
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09-07-2017, 09:48 PM
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City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
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This is a tough crowd. If he was under-prepared he'd be crucified for lack of forsight....if he's adequately prepared...he's suspicious.
How deep is it there ? Will an insurance company send a diver to the vessel before they cut a check ? Are there deeper spots that would be easily accessible to scuttle a boat ?
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09-07-2017, 10:21 PM
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City: UMR MM283
Vessel Name: Northern Lights II
Vessel Model: Bayliner 3870
Join Date: Jan 2013
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38' and I tow a 17' center console, some must think that is suspicious.
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09-07-2017, 10:36 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
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It's one thing to tow that on a river, but a whole 'nuther thing to tow it in open ocean. I smell a rat, too...but hope I'm wrong.
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09-07-2017, 10:38 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by River Cruiser
38' and I tow a 17' center console, some must think that is suspicious.
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Where will you scuttle your boat, since that is clearly your plan? 
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09-07-2017, 10:39 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Everyone here works for the insurance company, it appears. Let's hope for his sake there actually was insurance in place.
While in Maine every summer I run a 36' lobster boat turned picnic boat, and we tow a 13' Whaler almost everywhere we go. A royal PITA in some cases, but a fantastic tender when you want one. Many times I've wished the Whaler was a little bigger. I bet he loves that 17-footer when he's using it.
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