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Old 01-03-2017, 01:15 PM   #101
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It does get funny sometimes. I imagine in person it may be more so!
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Old 01-03-2017, 01:17 PM   #102
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Old 01-03-2017, 01:20 PM   #103
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Old is relative! In college the motto was never trust anyone over 30. That was old then. Not so much today!
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Old 01-03-2017, 01:24 PM   #104
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You are the most predictable on this site...

Maybe not in real life but here.....
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Old 01-03-2017, 02:17 PM   #105
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Wifey B: Me ancient? Just know a bit about ancient history.

Of course the US had to have the Library of Congress come up with their own classification system.

Now I do the Kindle system of classification.

37 years old and got called ancient.
Don't be scared!
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Old 01-03-2017, 03:22 PM   #106
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I think this thread has been kind of fun...
Even if it has been done before!
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Old 01-03-2017, 03:36 PM   #107
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From what I could find out of Chapman's online but not able to copy was...

1. Trawlers have displacement hulls.
2. Lack enough hp to get on plane.
3. Fast trawlers is an oxymoron and incorrect.

But it says nothing about weight from what I could pull up.

#2 would imply there was too much weight for planing.
And the soft implication that planing was not of the trawler world.
And I've always contended there was no such thing as fast trawlers.
W/o looking it up I do recall Chapman's 1,2 and 3 that you refer to.
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Old 01-03-2017, 03:37 PM   #108
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Wooow - Chapman as comparison to Bible and Constitution - Woooow!
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Chapman's book IS the boating Bible.
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Old 01-03-2017, 03:41 PM   #109
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Wifey B: Oh, then ours are heavy cruisers, so all trawlers. I never knew. Thanks so much for explaining.
Everything is relative of course and the boat in your avatar is probably considerably lighter than trawlers of the same size.
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Old 01-03-2017, 04:16 PM   #110
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Why would a trawler weigh more than a "fast cruiser" when the cruiser needs larger engines and carries far more fuel and might have a larger superstructure and more amenities for a vessel similar sized? To me it would seem that the construction techniques will account more for weight than a particular type of vessel of the same size. I'm not trying to be difficult just trying to learn your thought process.

Thanks.
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Old 01-03-2017, 04:21 PM   #111
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I think we have come to the point where debating what a trawler is or is not has considerable similarities to debating religious or political matters. Individuals most likely enter any such debate with substantial opinion based baggage usually difficult to dislodge. The fact that there is so much rancor over the word trawler supposedly a simple descriptive term suggests there is something very fuzzy about the word just like political and religious concepts. There will be no resolution here regarding the trawler it is obviously whatever you wish it to be. What it definitely is not is a simple descriptive term.
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Old 01-03-2017, 04:25 PM   #112
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Re: post #110... "... just trying to learn your thought process."

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Old 01-03-2017, 04:27 PM   #113
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Most people's understanding of vessel types here isn't too bad.

Their input to labeling trawlers is right up there with defendingood what anchor is best.

But there are gross misinterpretations of many vessel attributes that have been rebuffed by several vessel designers that frequent here and those that just have been in the business long enough to know better.

A good example is using a simple term like heavy, but in relation to what like Bigfish asks. Heavy for a 25 footer or 100 footer? Just as nebulous as any definition.
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Old 01-03-2017, 04:31 PM   #114
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:32 PM   #115
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Hmmmm

Always assumed philosophical debate was the in the OTDE wheelhouse.
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:38 PM   #116
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Whilst dreaming of powercats I came across this...NOW WHAT???

It is fast...light...comfortable...offshore capable....and efficient. And it says it right there on the side of the boat!!!!
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Mr. CP. Methinks you are stretching the definition a LOT. Take particular note of definition #1 where the words: rational, truths and knowledge are mentioned...Philosophy | Define Philosophy at Dictionary.com




Post #116. Same GIF...Just sayin'
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:59 PM   #118
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"Trawler" as defined by Yachtworld...

Always considered myself more of a stand up philosopher



Of course my wife sees me more through Bea's eyes
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Whilst dreaming of powercats I came across this...NOW WHAT???

It is fast...light...comfortable...offshore capable....and efficient. And it says it right there on the side of the boat!!!!
I despise those narrow and slippery-looking decks and those unsubstantial, weak handrails. And I much prefer gunwales over toerails.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:12 PM   #120
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Whilst dreaming of powercats I came across this...NOW WHAT???

It is fast...light...comfortable...offshore capable....and efficient. And it says it right there on the side of the boat!!!!
I know that boat. It belongs to Mary and Joe Trawler. They decided to call the boat their last name and had an artist paint it on the sides. They thought of having their name also painted on transom... but it cost too much!
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