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01-11-2017, 02:29 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
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Posts: 28,147
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Top heavy/stability?
For those that love to judge boats from just a picture....have at it...
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01-11-2017, 02:36 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Still weighs less than a flybridge
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"The most interesting path between two points is not a straight line" MurrayM
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01-11-2017, 03:02 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
Still weighs less than a flybridge
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Not less than the flybridge ....but probably less than one full of some beer drinkers...
Quite the leverage arm hoisting that dingy out....wish I saw it in operation.
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01-11-2017, 03:05 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Sure Psneeld,
That Rosbrough has plenty of weight on a cabin roof that is rather high to begin w but I see they take the engine of the dink. So windage may be a bigger issue than top hamper. Also this boat lacks one (or two) heavy diesels down in the bilge for ballast.
Alot can be told from pictures? It's a little top heavy to be sure but many trawlers are worse off. Now you going to tell me it crossed the Atlantic?
Re the arm psneeld I wish I had it on my boat.
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Eric
North Western Washington State USA
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01-11-2017, 03:12 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
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Posts: 28,147
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There is a 3.5hp Mercury up on the cabin roof.
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01-11-2017, 03:22 PM
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Guru
City: Palm Coast
Vessel Name: Southerly
Vessel Model: 1986 Marine Trader 36' Sundeck
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,231
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I have an arm that looks just like it. I wouldn't know or be able to get the dingy in and out of the water without it!
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01-11-2017, 04:31 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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I missed something earlier .. It look somewhat overloaded.
OB on the roof? Don't see it. You must have a manifest.
Lower away Donna, but hauling them back up can be a chore.
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Eric
North Western Washington State USA
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01-11-2017, 04:37 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,147
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Manifest?
I have the original picture...but if you blow it up a bit you can even see the owner waving at you....
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01-11-2017, 04:49 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Manifest ... List of stuff onboard. Just kidding above.
Owner waving .... Oh I see .. inside the cabin. I can see that w my i-pad. I'll make the assumption re the owner.
Does the owner know you're posting a picture of his boat and inviting criticism of same?
I know he's posted here before so must be a member.
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Eric
North Western Washington State USA
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01-11-2017, 04:53 PM
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Guru
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 (1985)
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,877
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
For those that love to judge boats from just a picture....have at it...
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I won't. But in your experience, how often does stability play a role in incidents pertaining to recreational vessels? For commercial fishing vessels, it's probably the number one cause of capsizes, at least up here in Canada.
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01-11-2017, 04:56 PM
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City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Who is criticizing?
I was leaving that for the internet picture gazing gurus. I just asked a question and provided something for others eager to do so.
And in todays world...does anyone go outside and not be expected to be photographed by someone?
Heck I've been in Google earth at least 2X from what I know.
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01-11-2017, 04:59 PM
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Guru
City: New England and Canada to Florida
Vessel Name: Tadhana
Vessel Model: Helmsman 38 Pilothouse
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 596
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We used to have one of those Rosboroughs. Actually is great boat. We kept the dinghy on top, but had a way to flip the dinghy onto the roof without that ugly crane. We have cruised with several other Rosboroughs with all that gear on top. Seems a bit much to me, but none of or friends have gotten into trouble with it yet.
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01-11-2017, 05:56 PM
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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Imminent capsize risk! Rollover alert!!
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01-11-2017, 06:16 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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It all depends...you could zip from one protected area to another on calm days and explore by dinghy or go hiking on rough days. Maybe they hoist the dinghy in marinas and tow it in open water. Maybe they stick to lakes.
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01-11-2017, 06:18 PM
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Guru
City: Palm Coast
Vessel Name: Southerly
Vessel Model: 1986 Marine Trader 36' Sundeck
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,231
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
I missed something earlier .. It look somewhat overloaded.
OB on the roof? Don't see it. You must have a manifest.
Lower away Donna, but hauling them back up can be a chore.
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Actually it isn't bad. I have had it in and out of the water to use it for painting the stripe on the boat.
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01-11-2017, 06:32 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,329
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Best I can, I see the crane tube just attached to the edge of the FB deck. Is that good enough to lift the dinghy, cantilevered out on the jib? Must be a strong FB deck, or is there attachment support I can`t see?
Interested as I`ve a St Croix crane to fit to my FB, and concerned about adequate support.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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01-11-2017, 07:06 PM
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Guru
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler(extended to 30 feet) Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Quite the leverage arm hoisting that dingy out....wish I saw it in operation.
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Good observation. Just today I purchased a used 10 foot RIB. It is to replace the current 7 foot flat bottom inflatable which the wife finds a bit uncomfortable with two and a 2 hp Honda. I have the current one on the cabin top mounted on the railings. While this new purchase would and could mount on the swim step with Davis mounts, I'd like to mount it on top as current. However where I can man handle the 7 footer easy, a RIB not so much. So I have mentally designed a manual telescoping hoist on the mast part to rich higher than the handrail when required and lay level with the handrail when in storage, and a manual arm that would employ a removable support strut to maintain the arm in a set degree angle to allow clearance of the hand rail.
Too, in order to keep this project simple as the design, employ a hand powered winch. I suspect the need for a double block system to ease the lifting of said 10' RIB. As I have several 6 hp Evenrudes from day of yore in the inventory that is what will power this new acquisition.This OB would mount on the cockpit railing when not employed. So the hoist on this rig does hold interest. I did not view the winch used on this one and question if the mast which appears telescopic is. Could the OP advise? I would assume the base of the mast is secured to the floor or side of the cockpit area. Correct?
Thanks,
Al-Ketchikan
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01-11-2017, 07:08 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Best I can, I see the crane tube just attached to the edge of the FB deck. Is that good enough to lift the dinghy, cantilevered out on the jib? Must be a strong FB deck, or is there attachment support I can`t see?
Interested as I`ve a St Croix crane to fit to my FB, and concerned about adequate support.
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I never got up close...this doesn't show squat but that might be a clue that it is a simple bracket bolted onto the cabin top.
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01-11-2017, 07:11 PM
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Guru
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler(extended to 30 feet) Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Best I can, I see the crane tube just attached to the edge of the FB deck. Is that good enough to lift the dinghy, cantilevered out on the jib? Must be a strong FB deck, or is there attachment support I can`t see?
Interested as I`ve a St Croix crane to fit to my FB, and concerned about adequate support.
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Bruce, Look again, the mast extends down through the side curtain into the cockpit. As I asked, the assumption would be a bottom mounted with a plate to the deck or a collar to the side of the cockpit.
Sure hope this is a member and will respond.
Al-Ketchikan
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01-11-2017, 07:23 PM
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#20
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,329
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Thanks Al, I can see the tube disappearing behind the cover, rather than terminating in mid air. I prefer avoiding tube support to the lower deck for the St Croix to go on the FB, lifting a 30kg inflatable.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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