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04-29-2018, 08:44 PM
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Guru
City: San Francisco
Vessel Name: Speedy Charlotte
Vessel Model: Beneteau Swift Trawler 44
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 677
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Too close at anchorage
Been anchoring off Angel Island here and there. The last few times sailboaters have dropped anchor way too close for comfort, then as their anchors set, got even closer.
How do people handle this? On each occasion I've just continued to stare at them with the "you can't be serious?" facial expression. On each occasion, the captain has pulled up and reset their anchor further away from me.
I'm still a bit traumatized from being hit by that sailboat while I was anchored, and I certainly don't want a repeat of that.
I probably would have said something had they not moved, but fortunately in both cases they figured it out on their own.
How do you all handle these situations?
Thanks,
Mike
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04-29-2018, 09:16 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,105
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Call me crazy, but I deploy fenders when near other boats.
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04-29-2018, 09:21 PM
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Guru
City: San Francisco
Vessel Name: Speedy Charlotte
Vessel Model: Beneteau Swift Trawler 44
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 677
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
Call me crazy, but I deploy fenders when near other boats.
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Ha ha, not crazy at all! Smart.
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04-29-2018, 09:22 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 3,065
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My pet peeve.
Crank up the devil music to ear shattering levels as they approach is one method I have used
Death stare and point away ranting that we swing wildly in a breeze is another.
In a couple of months time we will have arms made from 6 x 6 alloy box section and with those lowered our beam will be close to 50ft.
I am hoping that'll help.
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04-29-2018, 09:27 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Auckland
Vessel Name: MV Takapu 2
Vessel Model: ex HMNZS Patrol Craft 94'
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 41
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I'm the same as mark, I don't worry much, I just drop some fenders.
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that crackling sound you can hear... I can hear it too ... hahaha.
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04-29-2018, 10:15 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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Usual way to start is going to the bow and watching, most people get the hint. Add to it by calling"Careful, I`ve got X feet out, etc". Or just tell him "you are too close, you`re creating a collision risk". He won`t want his boat damaged either, and you were there first.
Trawlers and sailboats often swing differently,which makes it more critical. The danger is real and fenders are a headache tablet not a cure.
Failing that,follow Simi`s ideas of bad behavior. Even start the genset  .
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04-29-2018, 10:30 PM
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Guru
City: Bellingham WA
Vessel Name: Hatt Trick
Vessel Model: 45' Hatteras Convertible
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
My pet peeve.
Crank up the devil music to ear shattering levels.
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Jim Hendrix 'Voodoo Child' works every time. 
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04-29-2018, 10:40 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 3,065
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken E.
Jim Hendrix 'Voodoo Child' works every time. |
It'd get me closer. 
Jimmy buffet has me upping anchor and leaving, guaranteed.
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04-29-2018, 11:52 PM
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Senior Member
City: Bellingham, WA
Vessel Name: Excellent Adventure
Vessel Model: 1995 Jefferson Ker Shine 45
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 395
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Meatloaf at full volume and all the guys dancing naked on the foredeck while the women hide down below. Works every time. Not sure if it is the choice of music or the dancing that does it.
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04-30-2018, 12:16 AM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
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The protocol is; "The last boat in is the first boat out" if problems occur.
They are supposed to take into account everybody else's rodes (all chain or combination), what the wind & currents are doing or may do, and what the tidal range is.
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04-30-2018, 12:26 AM
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Guru
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Never Say Never
Vessel Model: President 41 DC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 10,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
The protocol is; "The last boat in is the first boat out" if problems occur.
They are supposed to take into account everybody else's rodes (all chain or combination), what the wind & currents are doing or may do, and what the tidal range is.
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Unfortunately many boaters today do not care or can’t be bothered by protocol or even respect for others. Not like it used to be on the water. Although you are absolutely correct with the protocol. Now we just need to spread the word...
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04-30-2018, 06:22 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 21,332
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"Not like it used to be on the water."
In the past folks went from small to large boats.
Today with a credit card a 50fter with a joy stick to dock is the starter boat.
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04-30-2018, 06:31 AM
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Guru
City: East Coast
Vessel Name: M/V Maerin
Vessel Model: Solo 4303
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 857
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Bitch wings.
Stand on the foredeck with arms akimbo, watch intently. If that doesn't help, then a friendly "Hi!! Welcome to the anchorage! Do you think it might be easier for you to move now, or in the dark at three in the morning??"
Snugglers..... 
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04-30-2018, 07:07 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 21,332
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In the past in a tight anchorage , or when in a slip with a side open to an unskilled transient ,
sending a lady friend on the fore deck with a PIKE (yes sharp pointy red pole from fire house) was usually a message easily understood.
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04-30-2018, 07:07 AM
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Senior Member
City: Toronto
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 271
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelB1969
Been anchoring off Angel Island here and there. The last few times sailboaters have dropped anchor way too close for comfort, then as their anchors set, got even closer.
How do people handle this? On each occasion I've just continued to stare at them with the "you can't be serious?" facial expression. On each occasion, the captain has pulled up and reset their anchor further away from me.
I'm still a bit traumatized from being hit by that sailboat while I was anchored, and I certainly don't want a repeat of that.
I probably would have said something had they not moved, but fortunately in both cases they figured it out on their own.
How do you all handle these situations?
Thanks,
Mike |
Happens everywhere ....... Just tell him you got 200 feet of chain out, at least that's what one guy shouted out to me when I just cruised through one ( 20' ) anchorage looking for a spot. At this point, I'm more concerned when I see a large power boat coming to anchor ahead of me with a 10 lb. Danforth hanging over the bow ..... LOL
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04-30-2018, 07:20 AM
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, fl
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37 2002
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,211
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Would it help to put a buoy on your anchor using a sacrificial string?
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04-30-2018, 07:58 AM
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Guru
City: Palmetto
Vessel Name: Wanderlust
Vessel Model: 1999 Jefferson Rivanna 52'
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 673
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
Call me crazy, but I deploy fenders when near other boats.
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Yup. That. But letting the new arrival know how many feet you have out is a good, proactive idea.
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04-30-2018, 08:00 AM
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,345
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Even when I am the only boat at anchor the next boat always seems to anchor too close and up wind. I guess they figure I know the best spot.
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04-30-2018, 08:01 AM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Model: Helmsman 4304
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,458
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Tight Anchorages are part of the deal on the weekends at SoCal anchorages. The regulars don’t sweat it, or give out nasty stares with their hands on their waist. People do watch for someone setting too close to their anchor which is usually someone inexperienced, not evil intentions, and it normally takes a friendly call out to explain and and they will adjust.
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04-30-2018, 08:27 AM
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Senior Member
City: Albany, N.Y.
Vessel Name: Tranquility
Vessel Model: Trojan F32
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
"Not like it used to be on the water."
In the past folks went from small to large boats.
Today with a credit card a 50fter with a joy stick to dock is the starter boat.
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I always say they are two types of people that have boats. What you described is a boat owner, Than you have the boaterThey are the ones that take the time to learn all about boating.
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