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Old 03-03-2021, 02:15 PM   #1
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Time for a new boat,

Ok so we bought a vacation property that has us out of town quite a bit now, great way to be Covid safe. However, I still need a boat and am going to down size. Something I can handle by myself so I can take clients around Portland. Needs to house four adults for a cruise, be comfortable at all times of the year, (enclosed), at least do 20 knots when we don't have trees coming down the Columbia, under $200k, small enough we can get into any marina so no more than 30 feet. Preferably trailerable to take up to the San Juans once or twice a year. Boats I have looked at am interested in,
25/26 C-Dory
27' Ranger Tug both inboard and outboard
28' Cutwater
25' Rosborough
I don't care much for the high powered fishing style boats as I feel they lean more towards fishing than cruising.

Other boats I should be thinking of?
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Old 03-03-2021, 02:37 PM   #2
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"House four adults for a cruise...." Need clarification, I think. From your list, I am assuming you want day cruise, not overnight accommodations for four adults. Mainship Pilot might fill the bill.
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Old 03-03-2021, 02:43 PM   #3
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"House four adults for a cruise...." Need clarification, I think. From your list, I am assuming you want day cruise, not overnight accommodations for four adults. Mainship Pilot might fill the bill.
That is correct, day cruise four adults only. Overnights w/ only my family which is my wife and son of 11. One of the reasons I am drawn to the Cutwater/Ranger Tug line. Yes small accommodations for my son but it will work for sleeping.
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Old 03-03-2021, 04:17 PM   #4
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My 30 Pilot would not work, but a MS 34-foot pilot could. Just few of 'em out there.
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Old 03-03-2021, 05:21 PM   #5
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Old 03-03-2021, 05:58 PM   #6
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Is a 'new' boat a brand new boat or a new, to you, boat?

The boats you list have a 8'6" beam. Is this the limit you want for trailering? (I know it is mine).

I'm thinking if brand new, the C-28, with a trailer, will likely be over the 200K mark. It is also a pretty heavy boat, do you have an adequately sized tow vehicle? If not, this might be a limiting factor for some boats.

The dry weight of the Cutwater 28 is 1,800 lbs more than the Cutwater 24. Have you ruled out the C-24? It's been a while since I've on both boats, but while I know the C-28 has a larger interior, is there any more seating in the salon as both boats have a 8'6" beam?

My budget is much smaller than yours, but for a trailerable boat, I'm thinking of a Crownline 264 CR, single Merc I/O. A new fully loaded boat, with trailer, full canvas, and the Mercruiser Seacore option comes in at about $116,000. Probably not for you, however, as the cockpit is not enclosed with a/c and heat.

If I buy a trailerable boat, I'll probably get something with a dry weight of 7500 lbs or less as fully loaded on a trailer this would be around 10,000 lbs and my new Ram has a towing capacity of 11,493 lbs.

I'll be interested and seeing what other options folks suggest for a trailerable boat.

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p.s. if you are towing, don't forget about truck payload, as this is often the limiting factor for towing. Most folks figure 7.5% for tongue weight. So for example, a 10,000 lb trailer load should have a tongue weight of about 750 lbs
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Old 03-03-2021, 06:55 PM   #9
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I have friends with a Willard 40. Great boat! But I'm curious what makes you suggest it for the OP's criteria of:

1) Under 30'
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:04 PM   #10
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Try looking at different models Tollycraft - many of them usually for sale around that area.

There's plenty about the boat design you seek that I'm not clear on.
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You might be asking too much for one boat. Trailerable means a little on the light and narrow side. Even short ocean crossings might want a heavier, wider boat.

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You might be asking too much for one boat. Trailerable means a little on the light and narrow side. Even short ocean crossings might want a heavier, wider boat.
Maybe the OP modified his post, but I didn't see any ocean crossings on his list. By the time I read it it was basically the Columbia River (starting near Portland), and, if trailerable, San Juan Islands. There are some straits near the San Juans, but nothing I would consider ocean crossings.

Bshillam: I'm coming up blank for anything that's not already on your list; but if anything comes to mind I'll post back. (That said there are some good candidates in your existing list )
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Old 03-03-2021, 09:27 PM   #14
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It's way below the budget and a bit much to trailer, but take a look at something like the Chris Craft Catalina 280 or 281. The 281 it's a bit faster (twins instead of a single), but also heavier. Even then, I've seen them on trailers. Just not something you'd want to do all the time with the 10'9" beam. Weight for the 280 single is listed as 7000 lbs dry, so figure with twins, fuel, etc. You might be up towards 10k lbs. In exchange for the reduced towing ability you get more space in the sub 30 foot length.

They've got a good cockpit for seating and such. Helm is outside, but you could add a nice hard top, heat, etc and still be way under budget. There are real windshields to start from.
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Ok so we bought a vacation property that has us out of town quite a bit now, great way to be Covid safe. However, I still need a boat and am going to down size. Something I can handle by myself so I can take clients around Portland. Needs to house four adults for a cruise, be comfortable at all times of the year, (enclosed), at least do 20 knots when we don't have trees coming down the Columbia, under $200k, small enough we can get into any marina so no more than 30 feet. Preferably trailerable to take up to the San Juans once or twice a year. Boats I have looked at am interested in,
25/26 C-Dory
27' Ranger Tug both inboard and outboard
28' Cutwater
25' Rosborough
I don't care much for the high powered fishing style boats as I feel they lean more towards fishing than cruising.

Other boats I should be thinking of?
Rosborough or the C Dory would be my choice.
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Tolly in the general length you mention...

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/197...sedan-3748374/

More on Yachtworld.
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I would stay away from Cutwater. One our club members bought it new and the quality is poor. Their customer service is lackluster as well.
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Old 03-03-2021, 10:43 PM   #18
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I don't know how much boating you have done but just in case you discover you want to do overnighting, more than one overnight and you might do that at anchor, you will be better of with an internal engine, not an outboard. A swim platform is ideal for dinghy storage. If you definitely don't care about any of this, then go with an outboard.
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What you are describing in terms of sleeping and entertaining is going to push the limits of trailering. I would take a look at the larger Shamrocks like the 270 Mackinaw with a diesel, but that's a big boat to haul. For that matter so is the Cutwater.
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Only if lifting slings break.........and even then I'm not sure.

Might be a bit small but a nice little boat. Acadia 25. Built in Florida, few on west coast. But for others who may have similar list...

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...ia-25-3523324/
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