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Old 06-26-2020, 09:45 AM   #1
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Good morning, never transited from nyc to oswego, 39 trawler, bridge ht 21 ft

Looking for time and dist for this voyage also any recommendations.
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You won't be able to make the trip until some time in August based on the current lock opening estimates. There are still a few along that route not open. Lowest bridge along that route is 21 feet, so as long as you can fit under that, you'll have no height concerns.

To help with timing, how fast does your boat comfortably cruise and how long a day are you willing to run?
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I have used the following for many trips on the NYS canal system and also like Google photos to obtain better understanding of local conditions.



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Boat does 7 used to long days 10/12 hrs
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Boat does 7 used to long days 10/12 hrs

In that case, I'd figure 2 long (10 - 11 hour) days should get you up the Hudson, through the Troy lock and tied up at Waterford ready to start up the flight on day 3. Timing your departure for a favorable tide push up the Hudson will save some time, if possible.

Once you're in the canals, many of the locks only operate 7 AM - 5 PM, so you're limited to about a 10 hour day. Figure there will be a lot of traffic due to the late opening this year, so I'd budget 30 minutes per lock on top of your actual moving time. If you start up the flight right at 7 AM, you should pull into Riverlink Park in Amsterdam around 5 PM. This puts you just before lock E-11, so you'll do 9 locks that day.

If you time your departure on canal day 2 to get through E-11 right when they open at 7, you should clear lock E-18 before they close for the day. That will leave you with Ilion, NY as a stopping point.

You should leave Ilion early on day 3, as it's almost an hour to lock E-19. You'll cross Oneida Lake towards the end of this day and tie up in Brewerton before lock E-23 around 4 PM. However, you have a choice at this point. E-23 is typically open until 10 PM, so you could continue for another 2 hours and run through lock E-23, stopping in Phoenix, NY just before lock O-1.

From Phoenix, figure 4 - 6 hours up the Oswego Canal to Oswego Harbor depending on traffic, etc. I managed it in 4 hours flat doing just under 7 kts last year. If you're starting day 4 in Brewerton, add about 2 hours to get through E-23 and to Phoenix.

So if you take an aggressive schedule and run 10 hour days, you could do the canal run in 4 days and the total trip in 6 from NYC. Realistically, you may want to plan a slightly slower pace and take 7 or 8 days for the full trip.
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Thank you so much, really needed that info.
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What's the hurry? It's one of the most beautiful cruises in the country. Lots of cool places to stop. You can save some time and pick up a knot on the Hudson by playing the tides. The indigenous people's name for the Hudson meant "River that runs two ways".

Down load an old copy of Larry Zeitlin's "Hudson River Cruising Guide", among others. Not all that much if anything has changed, and is great background on what you will be passing through.

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