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Old 10-15-2018, 05:46 PM   #41
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I purchased my first boat in Clearwater fl. I live in New Jersey. I hired a captain to help me bring her up. I learned a whole lot from him. But the best things I learned is the confidence I got when learning how to navigate with his iPad and the Navionics program. I got multiple Garminís up and down. But whichever I use the iPad/Navionics program is with me. When traveling I lay out courses, marinas to stay at, restaurants, shopping...... all while resting at anchor for the night
Wonít leave home without it! Seriously
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Old 10-15-2018, 05:51 PM   #42
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Need to know.....
Taking off this coming Saturday to Florida. I’m thinking about (weather permitting)leaving cape May to OCean city Maryland. Can’t find much info after O.C. If anyone is familiar heading south I would like to know if anchorage s are good for the rest of the way to ground zero. Ty in advance
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Old 10-15-2018, 06:03 PM   #43
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Use two ipads...connected via wifi to the rest of the boat

Brought Oma up the Mississippi and Illinois +++ to chicago. Primary navigation was using two Ipads - both using the internal GPS of the AIS. Around Lake Michigan I use iNavx On the waterways I used Aqua Map (Integrated Active Captain and the NA Charts were about 1/4 of the price.)
On the rivers One ipad was set to AIS, the other to Aqua.

On Lake Michigan Generally use both in iNavx, since it integrates AIS on the display. The 2nd iPad is generally used as a longer distance/wider view.

I am working to get the rest of the boat to talk to the iPads - the data wire was cut on the Depth/Speed , but will reconnect and should have that displaying on the iPads next season along with the autopilot and fluxgate. Not sure why I would use anything else (Life Proof cases and connected to the ships power)

I am still trying to figure out where to mount permanently - currently they get secured on the old MFD that that only uses the GPS coming through a wired connection to the 0183 network, with very poor maps, so it is basically a paperweight

I am thinking of mounting them overhead so looking at them is a look up instead of a look down...Low priority winter project....

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Old 10-15-2018, 06:31 PM   #44
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You guys have me looking at tablet computers now. I may have to buy a cheapo android to test the waters. Then move on to the more lux models with more features, doodads, and gizmos.
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:39 AM   #45
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Ben. You won’t get let down. Navionics’s has a simple $14.99 download. It’s easy to use and one that I started with. The next year I upgraded to around $50.00 a year. And it nice to be able to plan a nice trip from home.
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:40 AM   #46
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You guys have me looking at tablet computers now. I may have to buy a cheapo android to test the waters. Then move on to the more lux models with more features, doodads, and gizmos.


My comment may seem stupid but if looking to a cheap android tablet be sure it has GPS, some does not.

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Old 10-16-2018, 12:44 PM   #47
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Ben. You wonít get let down. Navionicsís has a simple $14.99 download. Itís easy to use and one that I started with. The next year I upgraded to around $50.00 a year. And it nice to be able to plan a nice trip from home.

Sounds like a good place to start.



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My comment may seem stupid but if looking to a cheap android tablet be sure it has GPS, some does not.

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Thanks for the heads up. I noticed that last night when I was browsing tabs.



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Old 10-17-2018, 06:53 AM   #48
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I have been using Garmin Blue Chart on my older IPad for a few years and it seems OK. I have liked the easy integration with Active Captain, but I havenít used it since the Garmin/AC buyout. Is it still the same?

Is Navionics better?
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:51 AM   #49
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It sure would be nice to see iPads (tablets) replace MFDs with better NMEA and Radar integrations. I supposed however that's not in the best interests of the major MFD companies.

There are two problems with using an iPad or tablet as the display for a chart plotter: visibility in direct sunlight and water resistance. Both of these are less applicable for a pilot house installation.


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Old 10-17-2018, 09:29 AM   #50
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I have no electronics at my lower helm. I use an iPad with a Garmin GPS app. I can use a Raymarine App to display mirror from the Display on the upper helm onto the iPad as well.

My wife uses the iPad as a secondary GPS for navigation.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:45 PM   #51
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A comment from a rep at the recent boat show said if you like the Navionics app better buy it now. Supposedly Garmin is about to "do something" to it in the near future...
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Ben. You wonít get let down. Navionicsís has a simple $14.99 download. Itís easy to use and one that I started with. The next year I upgraded to around $50.00 a year. And it nice to be able to plan a nice trip from home.
No subscription required

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Old 10-17-2018, 04:01 PM   #53
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I have used charting apps on android devices for quite a while. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is use in enclosed wheelhouses and good connection to satellites. The built in gps receivers often do work inside but I wonder about accuracy when they might not be receiving as many satellites as you would outside.
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Unless it is a steel boat, fiberglass is quite transparent to the signals involved in GPS communication.


I did have a problem with getting a GPS fix while on a steel ferry even sitting near a window. Steel does block the signals.


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Old 10-17-2018, 04:49 PM   #55
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I have used charting apps on android devices for quite a while. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is use in enclosed wheelhouses and good connection to satellites. The built in gps receivers often do work inside but I wonder about accuracy when they might not be receiving as many satellites as you would outside.

I've only used a Bad Elf dongle on my iPad. My experience in the pilothouse is that it can take a few minutes to establish good satellite connections, but that once established it generally maintains good connections and accuracy. Not as good as my Raymarine plotter with the 125 GPS antenna, but pretty good.
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Ipad/Bad Elf with Navionics is primary for entering new harbors with numerous turns, or for changing destination quickly. Secondary at all other times. Don't leave it in the sun. It simply shuts down when overheated.


What is Bad Elf?
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:00 PM   #57
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We use an iPad and a T-box for a transducer with Navionics running on the iPad. It works great because the Vexilar T-box is a transducer wired to a little black box (the T-box part). The black box sends out a network signal that you can connect the iPad to (or any mobile device). This way you can run Navionics on your iPad plus have a live feed on depth and sonar... essentially turns your ipad into a full fledged fish finder and chartplotter for 5% of the price. Vexilar t-box is about $150 and Navionics for iPad is about $50.
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We use an iPad and a T-box for a transducer with Navionics running on the iPad. It works great because the Vexilar T-box is a transducer wired to a little black box (the T-box part). The black box sends out a network signal that you can connect the iPad to (or any mobile device). This way you can run Navionics on your iPad plus have a live feed on depth and sonar... essentially turns your ipad into a full fledged fish finder and chartplotter for 5% of the price. Vexilar t-box is about $150 and Navionics for iPad is about $50.
Do you have the T-Box mounted internal/inside the hull or external on the transom? I can't find any info on the hull thickness limitation of the internal mount T-Box install.
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I have used charting apps on android devices for quite a while. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is use in enclosed wheelhouses and good connection to satellites. The built in gps receivers often do work inside but I wonder about accuracy when they might not be receiving as many satellites as you would outside.

Our several tablets and the laptop in the saloon always seem to be spot-on compared to our built-in plotter.


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Old 10-18-2018, 01:14 PM   #60
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I have an older version of this Global Sat BU-353 receiver. I used in on my windows PC. They are quick and responsive to pick up satellites. This newer version should be even better. I don't know if they can be adapted to use a micro USB port found on most tablets and phones.



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