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Old 04-12-2021, 07:12 PM   #1
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Ta Chiao Trawler

Hi,

I am still puzzled as to why I acquired a trawler whose manufacturer's name I can't pronounce.

Apparently, Ta Chiao mostly manufactured sailing vessels. i have't found much on their trawlers.

What I have is a CT35 Sun Deck.

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It's sound but needs a lot updating. It is much more complicated then the sailboats I have owned. There's lots for me to learn.

My ambition is to do the Great Loop.

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Old 04-13-2021, 04:18 AM   #2
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Old 04-13-2021, 08:34 AM   #3
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Welcome Aboard! Your boat looks very much like my Albin,which is also a T.T. (Taiwan Trawler).

I can't help you with the pronunciation but "C.T." will probably suffice or you can always describe it as a T.T.

What year is it? Im betting it is powered by a Ford Lehman, great engine.

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Old 04-13-2021, 08:38 AM   #4
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Hi,

I am still puzzled as to why I acquired a trawler whose manufacturer's name I can't pronounce (...)
Welcome aboard.

Perhaps just out of curiosity you should be interested to know the meaning in Chinese language of "Ta Chiao".

First, since an ideogram is a graphic symbol representing more an idea in a specific context than a word, it’s never easy to “translate” Chinese ideograms to alphabetical text, therefore the literal translation in reality may mislead the reader.

Second, the official romanization of Mandarin-Chinese characters (called the "Hanya Pinyin” method) which describes the sounds of Chinese characters using the Latin alphabet - and supposed to help reading and learning Mandarin language - is not always accurate.

So, in the official romanization, your boat’s brand is written "Dà Xião" or "Dàxião" which must be pronounced “Ta Chiao“. “Ta” with the "a" of “after” / “Chiao” with the "ch" of “chicken”, the "i" of "chicken", the "a" of “after”, the "o" of "forum".

"Dà Xião" is a Chinese-mandarin expression that mostly highlights the specific properties of a thing.

In the context of a boat or house, the expression "Dà Xião" refers to its physical and value properties. In short, it means both “the area is large (or huge)” and “the value for money is big”. More clearly in American-English : “very roomy and at a fair price (or at a good deal)”.

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Welcome aboard.

Perhaps just out of curiosity you should be interested to know the meaning in Chinese language of "Ta Chiao".

First, since an ideogram is a graphic symbol representing more an idea in a specific context than a word, it’s never easy to “translate” Chinese ideograms to alphabetical text, therefore the literal translation in reality may mislead the reader.

Second, the official romanization of Mandarin-Chinese characters (called the "Hanya Pinyin” method) which describes the sounds of Chinese characters using the Latin alphabet - and supposed to help reading and learning Mandarin language - is not always accurate.

So, in the official romanization, your boat’s brand is written "Dà Xião" or "Dàxião" which must be pronounced “Ta Chiao“. “Ta” with the "a" of “after” / “Chiao” with the "ch" of “chicken”, the "i" of "chicken", the "a" of “after”, the "o" of "forum".

"Dà Xião" is a Chinese-mandarin expression that mostly highlights the specific properties of a thing.

In the context of a boat or house, the expression "Dà Xião" refers to its physical and value properties. In short, it means both “the area is large (or huge)” and “the value for money is big”. More clearly in American-English : “very roomy and at a fair price (or at a good deal)”.

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Welcome aboard.

Perhaps just out of curiosity you should be interested to know the meaning in Chinese language of "Ta Chiao".

First, since an ideogram is a graphic symbol representing more an idea in a specific context than a word, it’s never easy to “translate” Chinese ideograms to alphabetical text, therefore the literal translation in reality may mislead the reader.

Second, the official romanization of Mandarin-Chinese characters (called the "Hanya Pinyin” method) which describes the sounds of Chinese characters using the Latin alphabet - and supposed to help reading and learning Mandarin language - is not always accurate.

So, in the official romanization, your boat’s brand is written "Dà Xião" or "Dàxião" which must be pronounced “Ta Chiao“. “Ta” with the "a" of “after” / “Chiao” with the "ch" of “chicken”, the "i" of "chicken", the "a" of “after”, the "o" of "forum".

"Dà Xião" is a Chinese-mandarin expression that mostly highlights the specific properties of a thing.

In the context of a boat or house, the expression "Dà Xião" refers to its physical and value properties. In short, it means both “the area is large (or huge)” and “the value for money is big”. More clearly in American-English : “very roomy and at a fair price (or at a good deal)”.

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Great explanation! Do you know the meaning of Cheoy Lee? (Probably just family names, but I had to ask... :-)
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Great explanation! Do you know the meaning of Cheoy Lee? (Probably just family names, but I had to ask... :-)
Thank you.

"Cheoy", said "Choy" as well (don’t forget that the original is an ideogram then the translation is only phonetic) is Cantonese.

"Lee" is both Cantonese and Mandarin, indeed the name of many families in Hong Kong and Canton.

In Cantonese, "Cheoy Lee" means "good fortune".

PS : Hong Kong is speaking Cantonese.
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Yes, I agree, but I'm hoping for some pictures of LUTIN cruising the Riviera.
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Thank you.

"Cheoy", said "Choy" as well (don’t forget that the original is an ideogram then the translation is only phonetic) is Cantonese.

"Lee" is both Cantonese and Mandarin, indeed the name of many families in Hong Kong and Canton.

In Cantonese, "Cheoy Lee" means "good fortune".

PS : Hong Kong is speaking Cantonese.
I love it! (And agree with it, too...) Thank you!!!!
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Yes, I agree, but I'm hoping for some pictures of LUTIN cruising the Riviera.
Here they are, + a special cuvee of "Rosé de Provence" wine .

My apologies to Bruce for hijacking his welcome thread
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I love it! (And agree with it, too...) Thank you!!!!
You are welcome. Of course it depends about the context as always in a language. “Fortune” may mean “Money” or “Luck” or both. Anyway it’s a nice symbol for your vessel .
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"Very roomy and at a fair price." --- Nice.

I also own an Albin and yes the similarities abound.

These trawlers are good. Although, much updating is needed. That is more of a factor of age and things going out of usefulness than what came out of the factory ("Very roomy and at a fair price." ). ... I really do need to retire though, so I can work on the boat a lot more.
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". I really do need to retire though, so I can work on the boat a lot more."

Before you retire, a goal might be to learn how to simplify systems to require less maint.

As you age its more fun to enjoy the boat than to be constantly repairing stuff.
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Welcome aboard.

Perhaps just out of curiosity you should be interested to know the meaning in Chinese language of "Ta Chiao".

First, since an ideogram is a graphic symbol representing more an idea in a specific context than a word, it’s never easy to “translate” Chinese ideograms to alphabetical text, therefore the literal translation in reality may mislead the reader.

Second, the official romanization of Mandarin-Chinese characters (called the "Hanya Pinyin” method) which describes the sounds of Chinese characters using the Latin alphabet - and supposed to help reading and learning Mandarin language - is not always accurate.

So, in the official romanization, your boat’s brand is written "Dà Xião" or "Dàxião" which must be pronounced “Ta Chiao“. “Ta” with the "a" of “after” / “Chiao” with the "ch" of “chicken”, the "i" of "chicken", the "a" of “after”, the "o" of "forum".

"Dà Xião" is a Chinese-mandarin expression that mostly highlights the specific properties of a thing.

In the context of a boat or house, the expression "Dà Xião" refers to its physical and value properties. In short, it means both “the area is large (or huge)” and “the value for money is big”. More clearly in American-English : “very roomy and at a fair price (or at a good deal)”.

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I don't have to think about pronouncing my boat name. It's called a Formosa 41 Sea Tiger. (sailboat) but I think this was the U.S. yacht brokers just making that up when they were selling them. My builder plate in the cabin just calls it a Formosa Yacht works model S. T.
They were supposedly designed by William Garden, but I think at one time he even denied it. It's not a trawler but I have motored it quite a bit and it's an efficient boat to motor. At about 6 or 7 knots The Perkins diesel only uses a little over 1/2 gal an hour. It's a bear to dock single handed. I love that one scene in Captain Ron where he docks that Formosa 51.
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Old 04-19-2021, 07:51 PM   #19
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I have a 1986 version of the same boat. Does yours have the tiny little bathtub in the aft head? My research indicates the company was named after the founder, T.A. Chiao (pronounced like "meow.") What diesel engine do you have?
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I think if you can smoke a strong enough cigarette you will be able to pronounce your boat manufacture properly.
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