Stranded

[Benthic2]

No new technology is ever conceived in its final form.

[AlaskaProf]

When Benjamin Franklin first saw a flight of the Montgolfiers' balloon someone asked, "But what is the use of it?"

He is said to have replied, "What is the use of a newborn infant?"

[PierreR]

Electric cars are not new. The very first cars were electric.
Battery technology doubles capacity every 25 years of so. The failure rate on new battery technology is probably 100,000 attempts to one good one. Pretty dismal over the last 120 years. The failure rate is second only topped by apocalyptic predictions. Computers, batteries are not.
We get better at manufacturing them but there is a limit to electron exchange chemistry. Hi density energy like fossil fuels is unlikely without some type of nuclear involved.

[RickyD]

Originally Posted by CharlieO.

I'd raise the sail.

I actually did stumble across a sailboat today that has been converted to an electric drive motor. Claimed to get 2 hrs on battery power. Seemed like a reasonable set-up.

My dockmate is doing the same. He is an electric car driving, vegan eating, anti-fossil fuel guy. He is deep into it. Not sure how it will work out. He has a Baba 32. Rather heavy boat with a full keel. We will see how far he gets. He always tried to sail in and out of his slip to avoid burning noxious heat trapping fuels. Sometimes he was successful. So, he does not expect to use the electric motor much. I just hope he can get past my boat without incident.

[rslifkin]

One of my slip neighbors has also gone electric on his sailboat. It's worked quite well for him as far as docking, etc. The only real limitation is limited motoring range (~25 nm in his case unless he adds more batteries). But as long as you plan around that and don't expect to motorsail or motor whenever the wind is a bit too light, it works. In his case, he had a dying diesel already, so he wanted to give it a try rather than rebuilding or replacing the diesel.

[Moonfish]

Originally Posted by SteveK

Oh come on now. It is a Fad, either get on board or get out of the way.

I should have used sarcasm font...

Along those "fad" lines: I still recall a boss back in the 80s that steadfastly refused to get a fax machine, as he said he wouldn't ever need one. Finally got one, proceeded to use and depend on it more than anyone. I'll bet he used that thing until no one else could even receive a fax anymore...

[kthoennes]

My genset starting battery is entirely separate from the rest of the system, just for that very purpose, as a starting safety net. In that situation, I would open the galley floor hatch, pull the genset battery, swap it with the one of the dead engine starting batteries, and fire it up. Probably starboard engine since that battery is easily accessible. Hopefully that Group 31 on the genset would have enough juice in it to start the engine (we don't run the gen very much to top off that gen battery consistently).

[slowgoesit]

Originally Posted by RickyD

My dockmate is doing the same. He is an electric car driving (recharged with power plants fired by coal), vegan eating (grown using fertilizer made from petroleum products) , anti-fossil fuel guy. He is deep into it. Not sure how it will work out. He has a Baba 32. Rather heavy boat with a full keel. We will see how far he gets. He always tried to sail in and out of his slip to avoid burning noxious heat trapping fuels. Sometimes he was successful. (and when he WASN'T successful, his boat was repaired using resins/cloth created using fossil fuels) So, he does not expect to use the electric motor much. I just hope he can get past my boat without incident.

Not downplaying efforts to get away from fossil fuels, as I really agree that we need to get away from fossil fuels, but when people state "Green", they really REALLY should look at the entire life cycle of their energy/components of choice . . . .

[OldDan1943]

When the 3rd world has caught up with the US, screw it.
We are expected to supply with world with wheat etc yet still reduce our pollution further.
The 3rd world better find a way to reduce their pollution without our help because we are busy correcting problems in our own backyards.
There is nothing political about that. It is a fact of life.

[Benthic2]

There is only 1 earth. We all live on it. We are all obligated to make it last as long as we can. We need to think about this in terms of discretionary income. If the US has the means to reduce the effects of man made climate change, how much of its resources should be devoted to that. Some say a lot, some say none. We can not compare ourselves to other countries who can't even afford to feed their citizens. Those countries that can help, should help. It is a matter of priorities. Does your country want to cut taxes, or save the planet ?

[OldDan1943]

Sadly, every time a 3rd world marks starts to make at headway their birth rate jumps.
I am real tired of the dictators skimming money of the aid packages given

[SteveK]

It must be the Christmas season when thoughts go to 3rd world needs.
I support sending food laced with birth controls to help them get their population under control.
Right after we solve our own homeless, our own hungry children problem.
Over 50 years we have seen on TV the hungry children of the children we helped a generation before.

[KnotYet]

Originally Posted by OldDan1943

Sadly, every time a 3rd world marks starts to make at headway their birth rate jumps.
I am real tired of the dictators skimming money of the aid packages given

This is not an accurate statement. As '3rd World' countries improve their
standards of living the birth rate drops, just as it has done in all countries.

Sending food dosed with anything other than nutrients would only result in
the senders no longer being trusted, for good reason.

If you want countries to reduce their birth rate, the only known way is
to help them improve their standards of living and education.

[SteveK]

Charity begins at home dreamer

L.A. Skid Row contains one of the largest stable populations (about 9,200–15,000) of homeless people in the United States and has been known for its condensed homeless population since at least the 1930s.

[Finnegus]

Originally Posted by jleonard

Harbor Freight jump pack.

Oh yeah or just use the harbor freight combination electric cord/garden host and charge while you fill the water tanks!