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Old 04-20-2019, 12:43 PM   #41
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Donít understand why guys w big boats think they need all that stuff. They could get a big icebox and a bigger battery bank.
The simple answer is: Because we have all that "stuff" on the boat and we enjoy the comforts.

I'd venture a guess that your car has many creature comforts and you use them. That your boat doesn't have them is nobody's issue but your own.

I spent some big bucks when I bought my boat to have an exhaust water separator installed on the generator exhaust. From 10' away from my boat you can't hear my generator running. No exhaust noise, no water burbling sounds, just a nice quiet hum that can be heard from the swim platform, but just barely.
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Old 04-20-2019, 02:17 PM   #42
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Hi Mike,
I usually open all the windows before I turn on the ac on my cars.
Only when it gets sort’of unbearable do I turn on the ac.

As you say ...
“We use it because we have it”
I thought about that while eating breakfast. I have an inverter (came w the boat) and I’ve never used it. I think it’s still there. As for electric cooking on a boat in the PNW why not switch to gas? Some people think like in the 50’s “All the comforts of home”. But at whose expense I ask? We would do fine w a Willard the size of your boat w all the “things” we have on Willy. I’m actually asking the question “why not”? If boaters didn’t cook w electricity (in the NW) we wouldn’t hear any generators ... well very few. The food would still get cooked ect.
Only reason we fly around in big planes at 500mph is as you say “because we can” we do as others do because they do ... and we can. But we don’t need to.
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Willy, still doesn't answer the AC issue in the SE and islands summers
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Old 04-20-2019, 03:17 PM   #44
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Willy, still doesn't answer the AC issue in the SE and islands summers
Join a flock of Snowbirds from Canada, if they'll have you

Newfoundland, Labrador and Greenland during the summer, then Florida etc. during the winter. Can't get much more hairy-chested than that.
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No, it's fog....absolutely delightful on a summer morning.
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The simple answer is: Because we have all that "stuff" on the boat and we enjoy the comforts.
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Hi Mike,
I usually open all the windows before I turn on the ac on my cars.
Only when it gets sortíof unbearable do I turn on the ac.

As you say ...
ďWe use it because we have itĒ
I thought about that while eating breakfast. I have an inverter (came w the boat) and Iíve never used it. I think itís still there. As for electric cooking on a boat in the PNW why not switch to gas? Some people think like in the 50ís ďAll the comforts of homeĒ. But at whose expense I ask? We would do fine w a Willard the size of your boat w all the ďthingsĒ we have on Willy. Iím actually asking the question ďwhy notĒ? If boaters didnít cook w electricity (in the NW) we wouldnít hear any generators ... well very few. The food would still get cooked ect.
Only reason we fly around in big planes at 500mph is as you say ďbecause we canĒ we do as others do because they do ... and we can. But we donít need to.
Yes I do use all my boats electric stuff, but so what. I like starting my genny to watch some TV, have cold drinks, heating, cooling and so on. I choose to do so.

At whose expense? So who is "whose?"
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I see our boat as a means to get somewhere, and once there, I leave the boat to do stuff. A mobile basecamp. Most comforts of home stay at home.
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a battery operated fan and a squirt bottle.
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Old 04-20-2019, 04:12 PM   #50
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ASD,
The answers to all you said above is obvious.
Not really that big a thing but I’ll hope we choose different anchorages.
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Old 04-20-2019, 04:27 PM   #51
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Do you know what guys, why would you want to go boating and hang on an anchor running a genny all night ?
What's wrong with you guys aren't you brothers of the sea and NOT sociable ?
Get the boat secured, go to the nearest bar, blow a bit of breeze, crack a few jokes, who's got a Mandolin. Giuitar, Banjo, who's a good singer ?
For gawd/s sake your friggen hard going.
Lighten up and enjoy life, you only pass this way once !
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Lighten up and enjoy life, you only pass this way once !
Exactly why you should run the Genny and crank the AC!
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Good story. Was on a remote dock at Isle Royale in Lake Superior with a sailboat tied up behind me. We were there for several cold rainy days and nights. The first day we were commenting on how cold and raw is was while enjoying a glass of wine on their boat. I felt bad that later I was going to fire up the generator and turn on the reverse cycle AC units to heat my boat. Asked them if they had any heat, to which they responded reverse cycle AC, but only at the dock, as no generator. With a smile on my face, I told them I could hook them up. Have a 30 amp shore power plug for generatorless friends when we raft up. Needless to say, the wife was ecstatic, and promptly announced she was going to feed me for the duration of the storm. Each morning I would get up at 6am, fire up the generator, which would bring on the heat in their boat (before they got out of bed).

Point of the story is that not all the complaints are with regard to noise and smell, but maybe haves and have nots.

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You don't have to have A/C on a boat, even in the South!

I spent a lot of time on a sailboat on Galveston Bay (and points south) without either an A/C or a genny. Key was lot of cross ventilation with fans helping and very light clothing. If it got too hot, could always be in cockpit under the bimini.

That said, these days, I would much rather have A/C and a genny on the warm Summer days!

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The simple answer is: Because we have all that "stuff" on the boat and we enjoy the comforts.

I'd venture a guess that your car has many creature comforts and you use them. That your boat doesn't have them is nobody's issue but your own.

I spent some big bucks when I bought my boat to have an exhaust water separator installed on the generator exhaust. From 10' away from my boat you can't hear my generator running. No exhaust noise, no water burbling sounds, just a nice quiet hum that can be heard from the swim platform, but just barely.
Not many anchor out next to others in their cars.
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When I am on the West Coast I rarely need to run my generator more than 4 hours a day, if at all. The water is cold and the nights are cool. When i’m in the SE the generator runs 24 hrs a day. The water is hot and the nights are muggy.

In the PNW it’s not reasonable to run a generator after 10 pm and in the SE it’s not reasonable to expect boats to turn off their generator at night.
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When I am on the West Coast I rarely need to run my generator more than 4 hours a day, if at all. The water is cold and the nights are cool. When iím in the SE the generator runs 24 hrs a day. The water is hot and the nights are muggy.

In the PNW itís not reasonable to run a generator after 10 pm and in the SE itís not reasonable to expect boats to turn off their generator at night.
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I can tell you live in Maine. No air conditioning needed.


While viable where you live, your opinion doesn't hold water in the tropics.

Yes no A/C needed and I wouldn't live or boat any where where it got that hot. You will never see me in the south. And yes I have lived in the south and it was miserable.



As I said, with modern batteries you can install a large enough battery bank to run your A/C all night. It just costs money and if a few tens of thousands matters to you you are in the wrong hobby.
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Yes no A/C needed and I wouldn't live or boat any where where it got that hot. You will never see me in the south. And yes I have lived in the south and it was miserable.



As I said, with modern batteries you can install a large enough battery bank to run your A/C all night. It just costs money and if a few tens of thousands matters to you you are in the wrong hobby.
And just how many batteries would that take, for say two 12,000 btu units, and where would you put these batteries?
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When I am on the West Coast I rarely need to run my generator more than 4 hours a day, if at all. The water is cold and the nights are cool. When iím in the SE the generator runs 24 hrs a day. The water is hot and the nights are muggy.

In the PNW itís not reasonable to run a generator after 10 pm and in the SE itís not reasonable to expect boats to turn off their generator at night.
Basically good and reasonable IMO.
Like animals. They stop eating when theíve had enough. Not people.
At least some people. Got the ac? Crank it up.
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