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I think it's time to trot out my differences in scale example again, using todays numbers.

The US has 10 times Canada's population and 36 times our confirmed Covid-19 cases.

If the US had a neighbouring country with 3.2 billion people (10 times your population) and 539,403,300 confirmed Covid-19 cases (36 times your cases), would you be allowing free access across your border? Hmmm?
 
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In August I counted 22 countries which were reporting more than 1000 cases per day. Yesterday I counted over 60 countries. This is no time to be opening things up!
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction said:
Well if we are to follow what some of our Canadian friends here on TF are preaching and have taken me to task with traveling through BC, the Canadian government should ORDER all Canadian citizens to return immediately back to Canada!
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Well, that's just simple minded, tit for tat rubbish and it's not even logical.

Canada sends interloping US rule breakers, back to the US. If you want the same standard, and it isn't a double one, then it should be the US sending Canadians back. No?
 
soin2la said:
Well, that's just simple minded, tit for tat rubbish and it's not even logical.

Canada sends interloping US rule breakers, back to the US. If you want the same standard, and it isn't a double one, then it should be the US sending Canadians back. No?
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"Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds."

R.W. Emerson
 
koliver said:
Tom (Firehoser), Tom (ASD) is correct, as is Tom(Sunchaser). You can fly across the Can US border, INTO the US, but unless you are a returning Canadian or an essential worker, or for some very good reason have convinced the CBSA to allow you, you may not fly INTO Canada.
Also, there is no 14 day Q requirement upon entry to the US, but there is, returning to Canada, unless you are the aforementioned essential.

A friend of ours, from Ottawa, flew across the line, picked up his motorhome that a dual citizen had driven across, and is now at the California RV park that we used to go to. There are also a flood of snowbirds in Florida, having flown. But in the summer months, the reverse isn't likely to occur, at least until things are back under control.
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I stand corrected. As Canadians, we cannot control what the US Government will or won't allow as far as travel. However, I do remember seeing reports on Canadian news that talks about Covid exposure on both domestic and international flights into YVR (Vancouver BC).

In a lot of ways, I do agree with Tom (ASD), why is the border closed, but not actually totally closed??? Seems a bit strange in many ways.:dance:
 
Are the Eastern Canadian cities still allowing air travel back and forth with Paris? How about Hong Kong to Vancouver?
 
sunchaser said:
Are the Eastern Canadian cities still allowing air travel back and forth with Paris? How about Hong Kong to Vancouver?
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Tom,

I'm in YVR every week. I have seen flights to HK, Delhi, Tokyo, Bejing, Shanghai, Seoul, Teipei, and Frankfort (and many west coast states).

I see resort cities on the boards in YYC PV, Cancun, Palm Springs, Phoenix.

Not sure about the East, but I am sure there are regular flights to/from YYC.
 
Northern Spy said:
Tom,

I'm in YVR every week. I have seen flights to HK, Delhi, Tokyo, Bejing, Shanghai, Seoul, Teipei, and Frankfort (and many west coast states).

I see resort cities on the boards in YYC PV, Cancun, Palm Springs, Phoenix.

Not sure about the East, but I am sure there are regular flights to/from YYC.
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You're allowed, if you have prearranged a two week quarantine location, etc:

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...eness-resources/entering-canada-covid-19.html

More info:

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...us-infection/latest-travel-health-advice.html
 
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If people don’t change their minds about not taking the vaccine this is destined to be a very long thread
 
Struck a vain I see. My point is the attitude of some Canadians about closing the border. Some feel they should be allowed to cross based on a vacation home.

The border is open or closed. If it is closed, then Canadians that have vacation houses in Arizona,, Texas,, Florida or RVs should be forced back to Canada as they are not essential personnel.

Tit for tat, not really. Open or closed, pretty simple.

Look at it from a cruiser point of view. If I can drive an RV and stay in Arizona or fly from Vancouver to my vacation home in Florida, why are there restrictions on recreation boats not the same?
 
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Nomad Willy said:
If people don’t change their minds about not taking the vaccine this is destined to be a very long thread
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A realistic estimate, given that about 75% of a population would need to be vaccinated for it to be effective (from what I’ve heard) this thread will probably still be going two summers from now.
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction said:
Struck a vain I see. My point is the attitude of some Canadians about closing the border. The border is open or closed. If it is closed, then Canadians that have vacation houses in Arizona,, Texas,, Florida or RVs should be forced back to Canada as they are not essential personnel.

Tit for tat, not really. Open or closed, pretty simple.
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Vain indeed.

Read the Canadian government link in #131...it’s not closed, if you qualify.
 
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sunchaser said:
Murray, thanks. Having read these same long lists of who is and isn't persona non grata I'm hopeful proof of vaccine will be added to that list.
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Good point, but the vaccines will have to be proven effective over time...not sure how long that will take.
 
From what I read here...

If you're a foreign national (not a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident of Canada), you won't be able to enter Canada if you have COVID-19 symptoms. The exception is if you're a protected person under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.

There are currently border restrictions for discretionary (optional) travel to Canada:

at the Canada-U.S. border
from any country other than the U.S.

Discretionary travel includes, but is not limited to, tourism, recreation and entertainment.

If a traveller's entry is permitted, they'll be subject to mandatory quarantine for 14 days.
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...it looks like tourism is allowed, if you have all the required documentation. Not 100% sure, but looks like it isn't "closed" as ASD is trying to frame it.
 
No one is being vain on this side of the border.
Alaskan Sea-Duction said:
My point is the attitude of some Canadians about closing the border.

The border is open or closed. If it is closed, then Canadians that have vacation houses in Arizona,, Texas,, Florida or RVs should be forced back to Canada as they are not essential personnel.
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Alaskan Sea-Duction said:
Look at it from a cruiser point of view. If I can drive an RV and stay in Arizona or fly from Vancouver to my vacation home in Florida, why are there restrictions on recreation boats not the same?
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You are talking about two different policies of two separate nations. If you have an issue with Canadians crossing to the US, take it up with your own policy making government(s).

Stop whining and blaming “some Canadians,” be they first nations or settlers, for your constant perception of being a victim.
 
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Hey, ASD...still waiting for your answer:

MurrayM said:
I think it's time to trot out my differences in scale example again, using todays numbers.

The US has 10 times Canada's population and 36 times our confirmed Covid-19 cases.

If the US had a neighbouring country with 3.2 billion people (10 times your population) and 539,403,300 confirmed Covid-19 cases (36 times your cases), would you be allowing free access across your border? Hmmm?
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I just had an interesting thought regarding Canadians in the States. How easy will it be for them to get the vaccine? How much will they have to pay? Will they be at the bottom of the list in the States to get the vaccine?
 
rsn48,
Probably depends on distribution.
If we get the shots through our doctors Canadians could have a problem.
If the shot is administered in a parking lot they may be good to go.
They could be the first Canadians to get “shot”.

But it may/probably not be that simple.
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction said:
Not worth debating, false data. It's no longer about the virus. It's all about control and money.
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Totally relevant from Canada's vantage point, which you are unwilling to consider because it would make you reassess your position which an empathetic eye.

All about control and money? I think it's all about trying to keep the numbers down so field hospitals aren't needed, freezer trucks packed full of bodies don't have to be parked behind hospitals because funeral homes can't keep up, and health care workers not burning out.

Then there's the Human/emotional costs...
 
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MurrayM said:
Totally relevant from Canada's vantage point, which you are unwilling to consider because it would make you reassess your position which an empathetic eye.

All about control and money? I think it's all about trying to keep the numbers down so field hospitals aren't needed, freezer trucks packed full of bodies don't have to be parked behind hospitals because funeral homes can't keep up, and health care workers not burning out.

Then there's the Human/emotional costs...
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Sorry Murray, I ain't drinking the cool-aid....

Still simple. If you are a Canadian, go home until the border is open or Canada and the USA negotiate border openings that is far to both sides.

Again, its no longer about the virus rather its about control of the people and money. The start of socialism and later a communist state.
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction said:
Sorry Murray, I ain't drinking the cool-aid....

Still simple. If you are a Canadian, go home until the border is open or Canada and the USA negotiate border openings that is far to both sides.

Again, its no longer about the virus rather its about control of the people and money. The start of socialism and later a communist state.
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Sorry, Kool-aid is too sugary for me and I find your brand of aluminum foil helmet uncomfortable. Prefer to read information from a variety of international sources, thereby not ending up in an echo chamber where opinions of narrow scope are endlessly repeated.

Read that link on contrarian provocateurs? Worth a chuckle :thumb:
 
rsn48 said:
I just had an interesting thought regarding Canadians in the States. How easy will it be for them to get the vaccine? How much will they have to pay? Will they be at the bottom of the list in the States to get the vaccine?
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Just speculating here, but with the scope of this pandemic, country allotments and the sheer volume of vaccines needed, I think it very unlikely Canadians would be able to buy a private Covid vaccine in the US, in the short term and this might even apply to US citizens.

I suspect there might be a ban on private sale as part of licencing agreements.

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Suddenly quantity isn't the sole issue, maybe quality is, as Pfizer halves their production targets.
https://canadanewsmedia.ca/pfizer-s...0m-due-to-production-quality-issues-680-news/
 
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