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02-15-2016, 12:06 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Richmond
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 29
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solar panels
anyone mounted solar panels on a trawler? suggestions of where and how please......bimini?
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02-15-2016, 12:21 PM
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Guru
City: Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Vessel Name: Moana Huaka'i
Vessel Model: Selene 53
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 816
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I haven't mounted on a trawler, but I were to I'd certainly of onto of the bimini in ours.
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02-15-2016, 12:28 PM
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Senior Member
City: Erie PA
Vessel Name: Endless Endeavor
Vessel Model: Custom
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 225
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I would weld up a aluminum hard top and mount the panels on top just make it so you can unbolt it quickly. If I every had to switch to a mooring ball that is my plan.
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02-15-2016, 12:30 PM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,300
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I have been thinking about having a frame built to mount solar panels over the aft cabin on our Double Cabin Taiwanese Tub and maybe putting a hard top on the frame then adding fixed panels.
If you leave the bimini up all the time, you can probably mount them on that frame. At least one TF poster has used soft panels on his bimini.
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02-15-2016, 12:51 PM
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Valued Technical Contributor
City: Litchfield, Ct
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,693
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I have installed two panels on "trawlers" recently.
The first was for my buddy's CHB 45 pilothouse. Above the pilothouse and forward of the fly bridge is a nice flat area that could hold 2-200 watt panels. It is open to the sun except when it gets down to 45 degrees and is to the aft of the boat where the fly bridge bimini shades it.
We used aluminum L shaped brackets to support it off of the roof for ventilation and glued the brackets down with West System epoxy and bolted them to the frame of the panels. We then ran two 12 gauge cables, one for each panel down to a convenient spot inside where we tied into a 45 amp Blue Sky MPPT controller. From the output of the controller we ran #6 cable down to the battery through a 50 amp fuse near the battery.
The system will put out almost 30 amps at 12V when the sun is overhead and makes about 120+ amp hours each day. Since that boat has propane refrigeration, 120 AH will fully cover my buddy's needs even with a few cloudy days each week.
The other system was a simple 100 watt panel that I mounted on my Mainship Pilot 34 to charge up the batteries after getting back to the mooring from cruising and keep them topped off. I had at least a week to recharge so I didn't need a big, powerful system like on the CHB. Plus I wasn't living aboard so even on week long cruises I was motoring to our next anchorage every other day so the batteries pretty well got recharged from the propulsion engine.
The system consists of a 100 watt panel with hardware store rubber feet mounted on the corners. It just sits on the roof of the hardtop P34. I cut off the MC4 connectors and spliced #12 wire and ran it down the side, through an air vent and into the engine room. I connected it to a Morningstar 10A PWM controller and then to the battery through a 15 amp fuse.
That system will put out abut 5 amps (you lose another 15% with a PWM controller but I didn't care) at noon and charges about 25 amp hours on a sunny day. It works fine to top off my 220 AH GC house bank.
David
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02-15-2016, 07:59 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Brisbane
Vessel Name: Insequent
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 50 Mk I
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,130
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My boat had a bimini when I bought it, but it was too low and I could not stand upright beneath it. So change was needed.
I had a custom hardtop made, which is OK but I'm not overly enamored with the aesthetic. It holds 5 x 260W panels. Had we planned it better I could have added a sixth, but the mast is in the way at present. I also added 2 x 260W panels on the pilothouse roof. I'm planning on moving those as they are often partially shaded by the hardtop. They are only delivering half the amphours of the others.
Were I doing it again I think I would have increased the height of the existing bimini (or made a new one) and used soft panels. It would look better and avoid having quite a lot of weight up high.
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02-15-2016, 08:25 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Middletown
Vessel Name: Kindred Spirit
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 39
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 32
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Solar panels
Mounted mine on rear rail. Tilts forward and rear to follow the sun if needed.
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02-16-2016, 03:40 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Krogen 42 pilot house roof is a perfect location for solar panels. Used 1" square aluminum tubing as a base mounted to the roof and then mounted the panels onto the tubing. This kept the panels away from the roof and allowed air for cooling to circulate under the panels.
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02-16-2016, 07:00 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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Decide on the purpose first.
Just to leave the boat and keep the batt sets humming 1 panel will do.
If you want to top off a mostly charged batt set a couple of panels will do fine.
If you dream of handing a cruisers biggest load , the reefer, to panels ,
do the math and decide if you really have real estate to put usually 200+ AH back in your batt bank, daily
This is a case where spending BIG on an efficient fridge may pay well.
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02-16-2016, 08:05 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Middletown
Vessel Name: Kindred Spirit
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 39
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 32
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Solar Panels
Keith, you did not mention what type of trawler you are referring to for the solar panel mount. Lots of ideas out there. Trawler type?
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02-16-2016, 09:11 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,168
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I mounted 3 275 watt panels on the hard top of my bridge. , nothing to cause any shadows, on a good day it will charge the batterIes with 50 plus amp. So far this winter I have seen a maximum output of over 225 amp hours per day, I expect more as the days grow longer
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02-16-2016, 01:52 PM
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Senior Member
City: Bocas del Toro, Panama
Vessel Name: Delta Swizzler
Vessel Model: 1988 58' Vantare
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 245
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I've installed four 335 watt panels on my 58 Vantare over the bimini and love it. But then I'm off the dock 3-6 weeks at a time. Built an aluminum frame that mounted to the radar architecture and a structure similar to a wake board tower for support
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02-16-2016, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member
City: La Paz, BCS
Vessel Name: Ansedonia
Vessel Model: Californian/Carver 52CPMY
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 375
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HI folks,
Great thread so far. Would it be asking too much to have some of you post pictures of your set ups? I am also considering adding solar, but I am unsure where to mount it. On my last sailboat I mounted three 175w panels on the rear arch. What a great thing for Mexico, with lots of sunny days.
Cheers, Bill
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02-16-2016, 09:05 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Port Lincoln
Vessel Name: Nenad
Vessel Model: Frahnof
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 32
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I wanted a Bimini so just got a frame made and used the flexible panels as the top stuck on with sikaflex. I measured the area that I wanted to cover then ordered the panels that size would best cover and in my case 180 watts.
More than happy with results but I'm sure it's not to everyone's tastes. 
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02-16-2016, 09:10 PM
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Senior Member
City: Tasmania
Vessel Model: Old Town Loon
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 217
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We've been looking at installing solar panels on a boat we are buying. Initially I was going to put a hard top on her to mount them but with the new flexible panels available will probable just mount them on the bimini with Velcro, zipper or something similar.
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12-23-2017, 04:04 PM
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Senior Member
City: Bocas del Toro, Panama
Vessel Name: Delta Swizzler
Vessel Model: 1988 58' Vantare
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 245
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solar panels
Quite the solar array. What amperage are each panel and what are you using as a controller ? Here in Mexico during the summer I was tripping a 100 amp breaker, so I’m trilled. What are you getting out of you panels at your location ? Extra added benefit is that the panels absorb all the sun heat so the fly bridge stays much cooler
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12-23-2017, 05:06 PM
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Guru
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,168
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Just finished the reconfiguration and add it to 4th final yesterday. 4 x 275 the 21st was the shortest day of the year so of course our solar production suffers but today I had a total of 225 amp hours quit back into the battery. I expect in the summer it will be at least double that
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12-23-2017, 05:43 PM
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Senior Member
City: Bocas del Toro, Panama
Vessel Name: Delta Swizzler
Vessel Model: 1988 58' Vantare
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 245
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Congrats and 225 on the shortest day of the year is great
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12-23-2017, 05:44 PM
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Guru
City: Bellingham WA
Vessel Name: Hatt Trick
Vessel Model: 45' Hatteras Convertible
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,916
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I am presently installing 2 X 350 watt panels on my hardtop, which looks much like Insequent's. I'm looking forward to firing them up. There are a couple articles in the Library section of this site that discuss solar panels, one by Bob Cofer and the other by David Marchand. Both are worth reading before starting your project.
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12-23-2017, 05:51 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Brisbane
Vessel Name: Insequent
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 50 Mk I
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,130
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I modified my solar set-up from that described in my previous post. The mods involved changing my mast and relocating the KVH satdome. I now have 6 x 345 W panels. They work a treat. Max daily output that I've recorded to date is 942 Ah (12V). I still get shading when oriented bow away from sun, which dramatically reduces output, but have enough capacity that I can basically be on the hook indefinitely without a genny.
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