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Old 03-25-2023, 12:44 PM   #1
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Small, classic displacement hull trawlers

I’ve had trawlers in the PNW but always sailboats in Florida to Bahamas.
Thinking of switching to the dark side down south as well
What other small, full displacement, low hp boats are there besides the Willard 30 Vega series and the Maple Bay 27?
Looking for seaworthy and low hp efficiency
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Old 03-25-2023, 01:04 PM   #2
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Add the small Albin 25's to your list.

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Old 03-25-2023, 08:05 PM   #3
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Prairie and Atlantic 30's.
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Old 03-25-2023, 11:08 PM   #4
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Hard to beat the Albin 25
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Old 03-26-2023, 01:09 AM   #5
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Does the 44 KK fit into your list for small?
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Old 03-26-2023, 01:37 AM   #6
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Hi,

my thinking is that Albin's 25 Hull is SD.

The second engine option for the Albin 25 has been a Volvo 36hp and this engine gives it a cruising speed of 8 knots, which far exceeds the hull speed.

I have seen the Albi 25 move much faster than the 15 knot class, after the owner replaced an even more powerful engine.

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Early 25s had a 20hp diesel built by Albin themselves (the company originally manufactured some of the smaller models in the Volvo Range). This engine was a touch underpowered, giving a top Speed of just over eight knots, so in 1971 the builders switched to the 36hp Volvo MD3B, which lifted the Speed to around ten knots, depending on load. In 1975 the MD3B was replaced by the similarly rated MD17C, which became the standard engine for the rest of the boat’s production life. The Albin 25 might not win any races, but she won’t bankrupt the owner either: at nine knots, with an average load, she will use about 1 1Ž2 gph.

Although designing a hull to suit both power and sail can sometimes result in an unhappy compromise, on displacement motor boats it can have its advantages. To improve the sailing Performance of the motor sailer version, Brohäll carried the hull down to a deepish keel. The same keel, in the motor cruiser provides good directional stability whilst also protecting the propeller.

https://www.mby.com/motor-boat-news-boat-reviews-pictures-and-videos/archive/albin-25-11729

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Old 03-26-2023, 09:47 AM   #7
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If you can find one, how about a North Aegean 30?

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Old 03-26-2023, 12:56 PM   #10
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Thanks everyone
Head on the Albin 25 is too small to incorporate even a wet shower…
Others are too big or too expensive or too hard on fuel
Big nod to the Prairie 29!!
Nice couples boat.
Some serious lounge area for that length
Inexpensive enough that a reasonable one could be repowered with a Beta 60 and refitted
Appreciate the responses
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How about a TransPacific Eagle 32?
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Old 03-26-2023, 10:07 PM   #12
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Add the small Albin 25's to your list.

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Old 03-27-2023, 06:50 AM   #13
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If fuel consumption is the primary concern, what kind of fuel efficiency are you hoping to get? That might give the group some better ideas of what would be reasonable for you.
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If fuel consumption is the primary concern, what kind of fuel efficiency are you hoping to get? That might give the group some better ideas of what would be reasonable for you.
The AT34, 400gal of fuel and a Cummins QSB 5.9, if you are carful, running at hull speed, 6.5gal/hour, 1000RPM, in theory, should be able to do the east coast USA without refueling.

What are you trying to prove other than purposely running out of fuel.

Would do the same with your car? I think not.

I will point out, the fuel consumption based on a nearly empty boat, in ordinary
weather.

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Hi,

you obviously meant 6,5nm/gal?

6.5gal/h sounds a bit high consumption Hull speed of your tug.

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Old 03-28-2023, 08:50 AM   #16
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Thanks for the replies
The prairie 29 pretty well fits the bill for my requirements.
Low power
Lotsa room
Like the layout (galley up)
And, very shallow draft for Bahamas
Finally, not crazy $$

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I owned and locally cruised a Willard 30 for several years before trading-up to Weebles, a Willard 36. My wife still hasn't fully forgiven me for selling St Cyr. I'm a displacement/single-engine type of guy.

3-4 summers ago, the then-owner of my old W30 took her from Ventura CA to Olympia WA, a very long way (1500nm? Long way). AKDoug on this forum recently took his newer W30 from Alaska to La Paz, which must be 3500nms. Around 25-years ago, Steve D'Antonio and Bill Parletore (Passagemaker Magazine) took a W30 from Chesapeake to Bermuda and back (different crew returned). Despite all this strong evidence, I am not a strong believer in small displacement trawlers. In my opinion, the human weight and stores distort the displacement characteristics. Also, with a hull speed of under 6-kts in open water, makes for slow passages.

For small cruising boats, I've always admired the Rosborough 245, Albin Tournement Express 30, the Acadian/Atlas 25, and a few others. Sure, more fuel. But small boats are fairly fuel efficient.

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Old 03-28-2023, 12:50 PM   #18
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Shoulda kept your Helmsman 31 Frank!
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Old 03-28-2023, 01:14 PM   #19
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Hi Conrad
This question was for a southern boat.
Supply chain issues and shipping issues affected my new order for the West Coast. You will see me out there this fall on a Nordic Tug 32. Look forward to having a drink with you and catching up. Enjoy your summer!
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Conrad do you really think of a Helmsman 31 as small?
And is the Eagle 32 small? I’d say no but it should be in context w the OP.
I’ll re-read

However if you were to say “for a trawler ……
wellll ….. mmmm maybe?

A “low hp” boat could be a W36 like Weebles w about 50hp. But a W36 is anything but small.
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