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10-06-2020, 07:56 PM
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Senior Member
City: Oakville
Vessel Name: Good Vibrations
Vessel Model: Mainship 34T
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Originally Posted by Jeff F
I've used strips cut from rigid foam insulation. The area of concern is the cinch strap where water and dirt can be trapped against the hull. A few spacer will prevent that. Something like 1" thick, 1-2" wide and 6-12" long. The cinch strap should be tight enough to hold them in place, just push them up under the cover. The strips are placed vertically every few feet.
I wouldn't be too concerned in any case. The problems I've seen were on boats that stayed wrapped for several years and had leaks in the cover that allowed water to drain off the deck behind the cover. For a professional wrap used one winter that's not usually a problem.
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Thanks, Jeff. Good advice.
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10-06-2020, 07:59 PM
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City: Oakville
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Originally Posted by Comodave
Let us know what you do. Ounce of prevention...
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Thanks again, Dave. Will do.
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10-09-2020, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member
City: Oakville
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After a lot of questions and consultation about the shrink-wrap with my y'all and my fibreglass/paint guy, I've decided to just install some closed-cell foam under the taut wrap-lines on the anti-fouling paint to raise the lines away from the paint. He said there's sufficient space beneath the plastic at the rub-rail to hold it far enough away.
The only area in question is where the wrap cuts down at an angle from the rail at the transom so as to enclose the stern and swim platform. He said it shouldn't be a problem there since, with the installation of a few closed-cell foam blocks, the only place the wrap lines will rub the hull is at the corners. With the additional blocks there, he claims there's sufficient air gap beneath the wrap. And since I'm having him wrap custom-made stainless-steel guards on each corner (where the hull is prone to damage), any line damage there will be hidden.
He suggested that any minor damage to the paint could be buffed out in the spring. Hopefully, I can "buff" them out by hand with Awlcare as Awlgrip recommends. Thoughts?
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10-09-2020, 03:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RossWilson
Thanks, Danderer. I presume the "stand-offs" were non-porous and small so as to minimize contact with the paint. Are they a special purpose item? Any suggestions where I find find them, like a marine supply?
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As I recall they were like mini 3-legged stools -- maybe 3-4" high.
I would imagine that the exact item isn't too important. Others have suggested some inventive and cheap ideas that I suspect would be fine.
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10-09-2020, 04:16 PM
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I would have a problem with someone saying we will just buff out any damage. I guess I would want them to say lets protect it so we don’t have any damage. Why take any chances, what if it doesn’t buff out? I would protect it and then not worry about it. My 2 cents...
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10-09-2020, 04:57 PM
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See the Awlgrip web site on the subject - they say don't.
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10-09-2020, 07:54 PM
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Senior Member
City: Oakville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danderer
As I recall they were like mini 3-legged stools -- maybe 3-4" high.
I would imagine that the exact item isn't too important. Others have suggested some inventive and cheap ideas that I suspect would be fine.
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My Internet search for the illusive spacer resulted in me finding exactly as described - a small tripod. The only problem is that the supplier is in the UK. Even Amazon doesn't carry such an item.
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10-09-2020, 07:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Comodave
I would have a problem with someone saying we will just buff out any damage. I guess I would want them to say lets protect it so we don’t have any damage. Why take any chances, what if it doesn’t buff out? I would protect it and then not worry about it. My 2 cents...
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Thanks, Dave. I agree. All I can do is reduce the likelihood of any damage occurring. It's unfortunate that I was unable to find an inside heated facility on the Canadian side of Lake Ontario that had a space. This will be the first winter outdoors for her. Next year, I may take her back to Georgian Bay.
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10-09-2020, 08:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Olebird
See the Awlgrip web site on the subject - they say don't.
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I do not plan to power-buff the hull. As you said, Awlgrip advises against such practice. But hopefully, a hand-buffing will remove the numerous bumper marks, along with a long white line from the paddle of an anonymous kayak paddler while my boat was tied at the dock. Should I attempt to remove the marks now before it gets too cold, using Awlwash and Awlcare?
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10-10-2020, 02:36 AM
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I had mine detailed by a pro last October when I bought it. Was amazed how well it turned out. Did not try to touch up the few dings it had picked up - most on the bow. They power buffed it. The transom graphics had started peeling so we took it off completely and after 15 years in Florida sun, the paint under the graphics had not fadded and looks brand new. Hate to put it back on!!
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10-10-2020, 06:12 AM
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City: Seneca Lake NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Olebird
I had mine detailed by a pro last October when I bought it. Was amazed how well it turned out. Did not try to touch up the few dings it had picked up - most on the bow. They power buffed it. The transom graphics had started peeling so we took it off completely and after 15 years in Florida sun, the paint under the graphics had not fadded and looks brand new. Hate to put it back on!!
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One gentle buffing will not kill an Awlcraft finish IMO.
Its just not a practice to fall back on often.
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10-10-2020, 06:44 AM
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Looks like one year my yard ran out of standoffs or something so...
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10-10-2020, 08:43 AM
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City: Freeport, N.Y.
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My yard has been using a plastic film for the past few years. If I had to describe it, it looks like the stuff that comes on new cars when they are shipped or the stuff the put on stainless steel refrigerators. Never had an issue with the paint. If I speak to them I will ask what it’s called.
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10-10-2020, 10:08 AM
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Senior Member
City: Oakville
Vessel Name: Good Vibrations
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacchus
One gentle buffing will not kill an Awlcraft finish IMO.
Its just not a practice to fall back on often.
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I feel you may be correct, Don. When I bought this boat 2 years ago, the previous owner had just had the hull power buffed and polished. I expressed my concern that they may have shortened the life of the paint. Nevertheless, I closed the deal.
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10-10-2020, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danderer
Looks like one year my yard ran out of standoffs or something so...
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What am I looking at in your photo, Danderer?
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10-10-2020, 10:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kwmeyer13
My yard has been using a plastic film for the past few years. If I had to describe it, it looks like the stuff that comes on new cars when they are shipped or the stuff the put on stainless steel refrigerators. Never had an issue with the paint. If I speak to them I will ask what it’s called.
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So, the film was snugged tight to the hull? No air flow over the paint? Curious, as that seems to fly in the face of common advice.
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10-10-2020, 10:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RossWilson
What am I looking at in your photo, Danderer?
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I believe he is referring to the plastic gallon bottles the the base of the shrink wrap.
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2004 Mainship 34 Pilothouse Sedan
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10-11-2020, 09:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RossWilson
I just spoke with the wrapper, who claims to have been doing this job for 29 years. He said he's wrapped million dollar yachts and has never had an issue. I hope he's not lying to me.
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Is he willing to put that in writing and back it? If not his statement is worth nothing.
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10-11-2020, 10:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Comodave
I would have a problem with someone saying we will just buff out any damage. I guess I would want them to say lets protect it so we don’t have any damage. Why take any chances, what if it doesn’t buff out? I would protect it and then not worry about it. My 2 cents...
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I AGREE with you!!! My Silverton is not painted so it gets wrapped. But if it was painted I would give a lot of thought to how much of the boat was wrapped or look into indoor storage
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