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Old 11-26-2020, 09:06 AM   #1
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Securing furniture

For those of you with "loose" furniture (as opposed to built-in settees, tables, etc.), what methods do you use to secure it so that it doesn't move while underway in bumpy conditions? Bob
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Old 11-26-2020, 09:12 AM   #2
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We have 2 recliners in the salon. The boat has teak and holly decks so no carpet. We have a large area rug that both recliners sit on with a nonskid pad under the area rug. Both recliners sit on the rug and have never moved so far. We have had it in 6í following seas.
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We have teak floors also. Our two chairs sit on non-skid pads (under the feet) and have never moved. Out sofa has wooden legs, so I drilled a hole up into the bottom of the two back legs, then drilled a headless screw into the floor, and sat the sofa legs onto the 1" 'studs'. never moves, but easy to lift off and move if needed.
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We have teak floors also. Our two chairs sit on non-skid pads (under the feet) and have never moved. Out sofa has wooden legs, so I drilled a hole up into the bottom of the two back legs, then drilled a headless screw into the floor, and sat the sofa legs onto the 1" 'studs'. never moves, but easy to lift off and move if needed.
I like the stud idea. Easy to do and use.
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Like this. And the lamp is attached to the small table
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I am sure that unsecured furniture on non-skid surfaces works quite well for the most part, and the neat idea of the headless screw in the back legs of a piece of furniture work in all but the most extreme situations. What about those extremes? I have seen some serious rolls on ships result in things we thought welded securely in place end up on the opposite side of the compartment. We don't intend for that to happen on our vessels, but stuff does happen. I have never had loose furniture on my boats because they weren't built to accommodate the concept; so I have not had to deal with the problem.
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Well, that is nice to say, but both my wife and myself have back issues and physically cannot sit on builtin furniture for more than a few minutes so loose furniture it is. We have been in 6í seas without any issues and we will never be out in worse since we are careful about the weather. We wouldnít have been out in the 6í but it was that or wait 6 more days to cross Lake Ontario. The furniture didnít move an inch.
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My furniture is built in. It is the stuff in the cabinets I worry about.
A few waves and one can hear things move and settle in the cabinet. LOL
Gotta watch our toes when one opens the locker with canned goods. Fun to hear the pots and pans finding a new way to store them.
Cabinets and drawers opening and spilling the contents. LOL
Hey, it is all part of the fun of owning a boat and cruising.
You have a 'free' chair, put it on it side.
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I worry more about cabinet contents as well. The only loose furniture I have is a couple chairs on deck (with grippy feet), a club chair and a pair of stools in the salon. Salon is carpeted. I don't know what it takes to move the club chair, I've never seen it happen. The stools have heavy weighted bases and are good to somewhere around a 20 degree roll. Beyond that, they'll tip over if the roll is fast enough. The deck chairs are the fishing chairs from West Marine. They're fairly heavy and the feet are grippy enough that I've never seen them move unintentionally.

So basically, I've figured out that other than the stools (which can be moved to secure them before rough conditions), any conditions where my loose furniture items become an issue are beyond anything I want to run in.
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Well, that is nice to say, but both my wife and myself have back issues and physically cannot sit on builtin furniture for more than a few minutes so loose furniture it is. We have been in 6í seas without any issues and we will never be out in worse since we are careful about the weather. We wouldnít have been out in the 6í but it was that or wait 6 more days to cross Lake Ontario. The furniture didnít move an inch.
I thought I implied I understood that the extremes I wrote of are beyond your experience with your own boat or any experience you expect to have, and you owe no explanation to anybody for your choices. What you are doing is fine, for you. I also have recent back issues and get that too, unfortunately. A recent delivery found us aboard a 55-footer with loose couches which was OK in the AICW. I tied them down securely before we went outside for 145 miles between inlets.
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A pair of loops screwed to the outside wall at the seat height, then a shock cord from loop to loop, anchoring the seat back to the wall, has held each of a pair of Stressless chairs for years, though, once a Turkish carpet was thrown on the floor in the middle of the saloon, such anchoring was no longer necessary as the chairs now can't move beyond contact with the carpet.
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All of our furniture is “loose” including the salon table. The table has a weighted base, the salon chairs are also weighted with non-skid feet. I installed Velcro pads on the bottom of the sofa legs and it grips the carpet (an area carpet with nonskid below). We have been in horrendous seas for long periods of time on more than one occasion and I was rather surprised nothing moved. I have plans to add two pad eyes behind the sofa and small straps to those. It’s the table that really scares me, it’s heavy. If that thing ever got moving it could do real damage. I plan to strap it against a wall before venturing out in bad weather. (Which of course we try to avoid)

Our cabinets and drawers all have latches of one type or another so they stay closed.

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All my loose furniture sits on a rug. I have never had an issue with furniture moving while in the Inland Seas. Once while traveling up the coast in unbearable conditions all the furniture traveled to the aft starboard corner of the saloon. We still laugh about the trip that was so harsh even the furniture wanted off the boat.
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All my loose furniture sits on a rug. I have never had an issue with furniture moving while in the Inland Seas. Once while traveling up the coast in unbearable conditions all the furniture traveled to the aft starboard corner of the saloon. We still laugh about the trip that was so harsh even the furniture wanted off the boat.
We do our best not to venture out when it is like that. My wife doesnít like it.
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I thought I implied I understood that the extremes I wrote of are beyond your experience with your own boat or any experience you expect to have, and you owe no explanation to anybody for your choices. What you are doing is fine, for you. I also have recent back issues and get that too, unfortunately. A recent delivery found us aboard a 55-footer with loose couches which was OK in the AICW. I tied them down securely before we went outside for 145 miles between inlets.
I wasnít upset or anything so please donít think that I was.
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Wakes are usually worse than the seas I cruise in...often more violent..thus the problem even in the ICW. Occasionally do get caught by seas and a poor angle or propulsion issue that causes a beam to..... even while anchored due to propulsion issues.

Love the squabble over seas....so much is just personal experience and the particular variables.

I bungee cord a table and chairs, couch fits close to 2 bulkheads that hook and eyes work and remain unseen to visitors. To keep furniture from sliding, doesn't take much....as long as momentum does get a chance to build.

Do agree that some methods work till things want to tumble. As careful as I am, some conditions are rare, but occasionally the rare condition and a boat or other issue puts you in that situation that friction ain't enough, but as I said, even small hooks and eyes or small bungee are enough to keep mayhem from starting.
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When I was delivering, securing everything was Job 1 before getting underway, especially if owners were aboard. Most common loose furniture was patio furniture which got strapped to stanchions. Lamps, pictures, everything was photographed and taken down. Glasses were packed and paper towels between plates. Tool chests were secured, extra lashings on dinghy and anchor - everything got secured. Running short handed was no time to have something break loose. And frankly plates rattling sound a lot worse in the middle of the night.

Loose living room furniture (definitely not a "saloon") was not common but if present, would figure out something. 42 foot ACMY, moved everything to the aft of the living room and packed and padded as tight as possible. On an older boat with carpeting, I wouldn't be averse to placing a couple padeyes in to strap down furniture.

I certainly understand that some built in furniture is not as comfortable as La-Z-Boy recliners. Boats are designed and built by people who are not furniture designers.

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Securing furniture

I had a 42 Ocean Alexander which was heavy and sat sqat in the water with low windage so rolling bad enough to move furniture was not a huge issue but we cruised to Venezuela and back and in our travels saw some hairy seas even after trying our best to watch the weather.

I did have a loose salon couch which would tip over in the worst seas. Remedied this by installing a couple of 90 degree brackets on the frame of the couch and to the floor through the carpeting. Worked fine for me. No biggie to remove the brackets to move the couch but no real need.
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I had a 42 Ocean Alexander which was heavy and sat sqat in the water with low windage so rolling bad enough to move furniture was not a huge issue but we cruised to Venezuela and back and in our travels saw some hairy seas even after trying our best to watch the weather.

I did have a loose salon couch which would tip over in the worst seas. Remedied this by installing a couple of 90 degree brackets on the frame of the couch and to the floor through the carpeting. Worked fine for me. No biggie to remove the brackets to move the couch but no real need.
Mike - Venezuela? Sounds like type of trip that needs a write up if it hasn't already had one. A few weeks ago someone posted question about whether a OA 42 Sedan was strong enough to go from SoCal to PNW. Guessing a resounding "yes" from you!

Would like to hear more about your run.

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When we were going out and knew we were gonna take a spanking, we just took out the drawers and set them on the floor, turned over the coffee table, raked everything off the couch and dumped everything from the counters into the sink. Basically gave up on keeping everything in place before we pulled anchor.
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