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11-04-2022, 08:17 PM
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City: Anacortes
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Seapiper 35
On my morning drive, which takes me by the old plywood mill, that was then Northern Marine, now Northern Marine again but owned by Seattle Yachts, where they're also building Bullfrog Boats, I saw a deck for a Sandpiper 35, sitting outside, that must have come out of the mold. Turns out that Seattle Yachts is going to be building the Sandpiper. I always thought it was sort of a cool boat, though not a great setup for the PNW.
I took a pic but, of course, I'm baffled on how to post it.
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11-04-2022, 08:36 PM
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City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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That’s OK Sean,
Most all of us are quite familiar w the S Piper.
There are tutors about posting pics somewhere on this site.
What about the Piper would make them less desirable?
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North Western Washington State USA
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11-05-2022, 11:41 AM
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City: San Francisco
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I thought they were going to get built in Ohio by Tartan. Seems like they are having trouble finding a home.
I'm not sure what about the Piper would make them less desirable, but for the PNW they need a new deck design (and perhaps interior layout) to make them more desirable. If they did that right, I'd probably order one.
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11-06-2022, 01:01 PM
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City: New England
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It's certainly a unique design and concept. Reminds me a bit of the 1960's Willard 36 aft pilothouse trawler, though that boat was bigger and had a center below-deck cabin.
The concept of a reasonably priced to buy and operate boat appeals to a lot of people. Like everything else, there are compromises and trade-offs. From my perspective, V-bunks and not a single double bunk, and a wet head, are compromises I wouldn't want to make. The separate sleeping cabin, requiring going outside in the weather to get back-and-forth to the helm, is also a unique design.
SeaPiper seems to have bounced around looking for a place to be manufactured. My understanding was they were originally going to be produced in San Diego, then China, then by Tartan in Ohio, and now Seattle Yachts?
Like most things in life, I imagine money has a lot to do with this, trying to build it at a cost that would allow for both a marketable selling price and enough profit for everyone involved (not surprised things didn't work out with Tartan; my personal experiences with them in trying to buy a Legacy 36 were not positive).
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11-06-2022, 03:36 PM
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City: San Francisco
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It is the center cockpit that makes the boat such an outlier. That forces the accommodation plan. It has several other unrelated unique features which make it attractive to me: trailerable, box keel, true displacement hull. But I could not live with that deck/accommodation, either in the NW rain or the SE sun.
Wonder if they would sell me the hull with machinery installed.....
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12-29-2022, 01:44 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Erie, PA
Vessel Name: LIBERTY
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 70
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Seapiper 35 at auction
For all the Seapiper 35 fans out there, a damaged one (2022) has come up at auction.
https://www.cooperss.com/assets/deta...arine&id=30146
$75k minimum bid, auction closes January 18. The boat is at Parker Marine Inc. 281 Franklin St. Bristol, RI
From the web page:
Vessel had a propane leak causing a stove explosion in main helm station/cabin. There are several cracks in gel coat on cabin house, stove is missing. Several cabinet doors were damaged. Electrical and mechanical appear to be in good condition. Engine runs, electronics turn on. Please see photos and videos. Use the orange arrows to scroll through multiple videos. There is no trailer included with this loss nor is it available for sale. **This is not an absolute auction. The minimum bid is not a reserve** The yard will charge a load fee that is the responsibility of the buyer.
I have no affiliation with the auction company but someone might be interested. I know I would be if we were closer. I wonder how much actual damage there is and what it would take to repair it. Evidently quite a bit for the insurance company to declare it a loss. Hopefully no one was severely injured.
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12-29-2022, 05:27 PM
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City: New England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drf6
Vessel had a propane leak causing a stove explosion in main helm station/cabin.
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This is why I don't like to have containers of a heavier than air explosive compressed gas on a boat. It only takes one propane explosion to ruin your day.
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12-29-2022, 07:00 PM
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City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Drf6, those look like some serious crack, run away and dont look back.
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12-29-2022, 08:11 PM
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City: Long island
Vessel Model: Eastern
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I can see that layout working out. 2 separate parts to heat and cool. The center seating is not advantageous for swimming or shore access. It’s like having 2 small boats .
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12-30-2022, 12:17 AM
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City: San Francisco
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I like the boat, but not the deck layout, so having it blown off by a propane explosion seems to me a benefit. If I wasn't on the other coast I might go and have a look-see at that.
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12-30-2022, 04:06 AM
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City: Seattle
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Nice that it has a fishtail rudder. Any feedback on maneuverability from those who have been on this model boat?
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12-30-2022, 06:15 AM
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City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
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I do hope no one was killed nor injured.
For some reason, I just cant be satisfied with the big open deck between the helm and berthing space. Current owners have tried many designs for that space but to date, nothing satisfies me. I am stumped and don’t have any suggestions.
I dont fault the designer nor builder. It is my level of expectation. In my feeble mind, it looks like a baby lobster boat.
I wish them great success.
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12-30-2022, 07:37 AM
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City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
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I wish there was an easy fix but beyond a hard top for additional solar panels, “I just dont know.”
Every time someone mentions the Seapiper, I go and look at alll the pics, read all the specs hoping the ultimate solution would jump out at me but so far, nothing.
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12-31-2022, 11:09 AM
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City: San Francisco
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The solution is, removed the damaged deck and house. Build a new deck and house. Done.
In the case of the project boat it would cost substantially less than a new one, and be a much better boat (for me, anyway).
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12-31-2022, 12:21 PM
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City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
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NDT of the hull might tell a different story.
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12-31-2022, 02:28 PM
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City: San Francisco
Join Date: Apr 2018
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One good thing about a gelcoated hull is that it has a brittle lacquer test already spread all over it. Before the laminate will sustain much damage, the gelcoat will have lots.
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04-21-2023, 03:36 PM
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City: Santa Fe
Join Date: Jul 2020
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Hi,
Found this on Yachtworld, I talked with broker and he said this boat was a refit after an explosion on the boat. Anyone know anything about her?
Thanks.
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/202...er-35-8803061/
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04-21-2023, 05:32 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfs9
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8 HRS on the main engine
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04-22-2023, 12:32 PM
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City: Seattle
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Explosion on the boat? No worries mate
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04-22-2023, 01:22 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,551
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I do hope the factory sent out someone to investigate.
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