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Old 05-03-2013, 10:43 PM   #81
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To switch to a Back Cove would cost me approximately $250K + my boat. I would pick up about 17 more knots at cruise and move up one more peg on my slip size, diver, boat washer, insurance, etc. ($$$) Why would I do that! (That's the question I keep asking myself.)

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Old 05-03-2013, 10:45 PM   #82
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Just get yourself an Eastbay and be done with it.
Funny you mention Eastbay as I was looking at a 39 yesterday. If I ever spring for a fast express, I want it to be at least 1 foot longer and 5 knots faster than Don's.

Tomorrow I head for the mountains of Arizona and a couple of weeks R & R. Maybe the faster boat thing will pass. I seem to go through this every spring.

My wife and I built our "mini lodge" and it's where she likes to re-energize. I would sell it tomorrow and buy a bigger boat.
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:48 AM   #83
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To dwhatty & moonstruck:

To switch to a Back Cove would cost me approximately $250K + my boat. I would pick up about 17 more knots at cruise and move up one more peg on my slip size, diver, boat washer, insurance, etc. ($$$) Why would I do that! (That's the question I keep asking myself.)

I would welcome some input from the Forum.

Walt:

IIRC you were going to give your present boat away last year, so we all know you can afford whatever you want. My vote is for the San Juan. For only $1.3Mil you can move up 17 knots and get all the luxurious comforts your wife needs, to abandon your Arizona retreat. I especially like the 48.
Then you can give your present boat away.
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Seems they're built in Anacortes, which is not quite in the San Juans but close.
Well, I guess then if East Bays are built in Malaysia it's not quite China, but close.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:48 AM   #85
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Funny you mention Eastbay as I was looking at a 39 yesterday. If I ever spring for a fast express, I want it to be at least 1 foot longer and 5 knots faster than Don's.

Tomorrow I head for the mountains of Arizona and a couple of weeks R & R. Maybe the faster boat thing will pass. I seem to go through this every spring.

My wife and I built our "mini lodge" and it's where she likes to re-energize. I would sell it tomorrow and buy a bigger boat.

Wow, Seahorse. I'd love to be in such a contemplative quandary.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:05 AM   #86
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He's West Coast. A San Juan would be nice too.
I don't know why the picture didn't come along. It's on post #75.

Spy is right. This is a truly beautiful boat. But Walt would want to put extensive hand rails on it and ruin the very essence of this boat. You can't put a bunch of clutter on a boat and expect it to anything but a bunch of clutter. Hand rails, antenna's, flags, swim steps and related stuff will mask, hide or otherwise take away from the beauty of the boat. This boat would be better off (beauty wise) if it didn't have the clutter on the cabin top too.

Re Marin's Eastbay comment I think he's just got his head in the GB box and dosn't even realize there are better boats than Grand Banks boats. I can see Walt in a classier boat like a Bertram but GBs are too commonplace for Walt.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:29 AM   #87
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BUT IT IS PRETTY DAMN HARD TO PASS A BOAT WITH NO WAKE WHEN THAT WAKEE IS GOING 7 KNOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF YOU EVER SEE A LARGE POWERBOAT SLOW DOWN IN AN EFFORT TO PROVIDE YOU A COURTEOUS PASS, PLEASE RETURN THE FAVOR BY REDUCING YOUR POWER TO MINIMUM STEERAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey there Captain Baker - That's some pretty good coffee you must be drinkin' there - know where I could get a pound?

Here in Eastern NC, the captains are pretty good about radioing and slowing down. We get a good bit of sport-fisherman travel up and down the ICW. Most boats are the Hatteras and Buddy Davis variety, about 45-58 foot with twin 600HP+ Cats and a big butt.



So they can throw a tsunami if they want to. But the times I have seen disregard for passing courtesy, I check the hailing ports and will more often see RI, MA, and CT in higher frequency. Something about that short season makes those guys in a helluva hurry. We just slow down, turn into the wake and bob it out.

You hear the VHF going pretty hard on holiday weekends with "Hey 'Nauti-Time' <insert boat name of your choice> thanks for the slow pass <sarcastic>", followed by some passing reference to their parentage...

But for the most part, I am hailed by the big boys requesting a slow pass more often than not, and if not hailed, they slow anyway, and I slow and it works that way 90% of the time. The bass boats pretty much zoom by at 50 knots, but their wakes are pretty minor most days.

California sounds like the wild, wild, west. Oh, wait.

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Now there's a good example of an uncluttered design (at least below the FB).

There's a lot of boats ... in fact I'd say that most boats are better looking than the typical trawler.

Maybe that's one of the reasons Don got a Sabre. To get a better looking boat than a trawler.

I'm glad that that good looking boat isn't passing me though.
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Well, I guess then if East Bays are built in Malaysia it's not quite China, but close.
There are subtle differences between the Eastbay's built here and there, but if you look close.....
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To dwhatty & moonstruck:

To switch to a Back Cove would cost me approximately $250K + my boat. I would pick up about 17 more knots at cruise and move up one more peg on my slip size, diver, boat washer, insurance, etc. ($$$) Why would I do that! (That's the question I keep asking myself.)

I would welcome some input from the Forum.
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"Far Eastbay"?

Here is a Sabre for wannabe EastBay captains. Click on the virtual tour.

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Re Marin's Eastbay comment I think he's just got his head in the GB box and dosn't even realize there are better boats than Grand Banks boats. I can see Walt in a classier boat like a Bertram but GBs are too commonplace for Walt.
You ever been on an Eastbay, Eric? I have. Several, in fact. I've also been on a Bertram. Boeing used to have one that they kept in Renton. An Eastbay makes a Bertram look like a cheese box.
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Walt,

I've been holding back trying to figure out where this thread was going and I finally couldn't resist. Since money doesn't seem to be an issue, I think you might want to have a look at my personal favorite, the Hinckley T55 MKII Motor Yacht. Hand crafted in Maine, it is perfect for the white-shoe, blue-hull set. Twin Caterpillar C-18 1,000HP diesels with Hamilton Jet Drives, 27kts cruise and 36kts at WOT. If that is not quick enough, optional twin 1,150HP Caterpillar C18 ACERTs will give you 40kts at WOT

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I would agree, Walt. That Hinckley looks even better than an Eastbay although I suspect it costs a hell of a lot more. Beautiful lines for an express cruiser, don't you think?
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Walt's new boat.

Do you reckon the Hinkley or the Eastbay look better than this Alaska 46..?
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That Hinckley looks fab. but for that kind of money I would go for a Dashew design.
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Peter no.

Erik C. Nawww too ugly.

Marin Yup the Hinkly is most beautiful. Aboard a Eastbay? ...... not sure. Been on quite a few boats at the shows but don't remember an Eastbay. But this is something you know better than me so I'll assume you're correct. Don seems to think the Sabre's a nice boat too and Don's a pretty good judge of boats also so I beter wait and see. And I think you are a bit biased toward GBs. Don't know what to think and I'll probably never ever need to know.
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I agree Dashew's boats are not the prettiest things afloat but I would feel totally safe in one. Immensely strong and self righting in case you ever get knocked over, besides looks don't really matter if you are inside looking out.
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Yup Dashew boats are great examples of design excellence and I like their overall shape and proportions but an expensive yacht whose finish is similar to an old steel garbage can I can't relate to in a normal way.

Hinckly's to Dashew's ....... this thread has leap power.
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