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Old 09-28-2010, 11:08 PM   #1
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Reducing glare

I'm thinking of painting the forward-cabin roof a less reflective color.* The superstructure and decks will otherwise be egg-shell white.* Any suggestions?* Currently I'm thinking medium gray.


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Old 09-28-2010, 11:20 PM   #2
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RE: Reducing glare

That would depend on your hull colour I would think. As per another thread, if you went with say a dark green hull I would think a light yellow/cream coloured non-skid might look quite nice. It might also look nice with other dark hull colours now that I think about it.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:48 PM   #3
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That would depend on your hull colour I would think. As per another thread, if you went with say a dark green hull I would think a light yellow/cream coloured non-skid might look quite nice. It might also look nice with other dark hull colours now that I think about it.
Yes, I'm currently thinking to have the hull painted jade mist green: a very deep, dark green.

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Old 09-29-2010, 04:05 AM   #4
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My favorite color! It's going to*be hot though. Just like the discussions on biminis, the darker the color the more heat it absorbs. Will be really awesome though. My boot stripe is deep green, painted on with Imron.
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:10 AM   #5
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RE: Reducing glare

Mark,My boat is mostly white fwd of the helm and I don't have trouble w glare off the boat but glare off the water is a problem. I hang shirts and other clothing from the top of the windows and alter course just enough to put the glare line a bit to the side of my intended course. The air is so clear here that the sun is very bright (when it comes out). I have photo-grey glasses and I put clip on sun glasses behind my regular glasses. The system works very well.
Any dark color will appear black from even a short distance away. On overcast days this will be much more so. If you want to have a green boat perhaps you should pick a green color that you like and then actually choose a green that's 2 or 3 shades lighter. I'm not a fan of dark colored hulls and one does want to be seen on the water * *...in all weather. GBs sometimes come in tan or a nice soft grey-green that I really like. See the buff (very light tan) on my Willy? I plan to paint the hull the same color eventually. Some light colors give a work boat aura like dark colors but are fairly bright and easy to see. I'm surprised how many compliments I've received on Willy's colors. But then I've seen close up pics of Walts boat and it is truly beautiful.
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:16 AM   #6
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RE: Reducing glare

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markpierce wrote:"I'm currently thinking to have the hull painted jade mist green: a very deep, dark green."
There's a rather large trawler in my marina with a dark green hull and white
topsides* and it's beautiful. I'll see if I can get some photos.

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Old 09-29-2010, 09:18 AM   #7
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RE: Reducing glare

How about San Mateo Wheat (yellowish) or Prairie Beige (brownish) for the cabin roof?
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:24 AM   #8
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nomadwilly wrote:" I'm surprised how many compliments I've received on Willy's colors. But then I've seen close up pics of Walts boat and it is truly beautiful."
Don't be surprised at the accolades you've received on "Willy" Eric. If my boat had*
the same lines as yours, I 'd copy your paint job and then I wouldn't tell anyone
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I'm thinking of painting the forward-cabin roof a less reflective color.*

We have*light tan non-skid with Hatteras white border.* We don't have any glare.**I wonder if it is result*that the nonskid is a mat or somewhat flatter finish?*


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Old 09-29-2010, 09:37 AM   #10
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...*I'm not a fan of dark colored hulls and one does want to be seen on the water * *...in all weather. ...
I'm thinking of having the pilothouse roof painted international orange.

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Old 09-29-2010, 10:07 AM   #11
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nomadwilly wrote:See the buff (very light tan) on my Willy? I plan to paint the hull the same color eventually.
Although I think your plan is a good one, the "secret" to your paint job is the dark color below the toprail and gunnel. Your boat has significant freeboard for her length and that dark color reduces the scale (to the eye) of the actual freeboard to length. Tom Fexas wrote an article some years ago (before passing away) about creating a "false Sheer".
This allowed the NA to have a high freeboard, to creat more space down below, without the boat looking like it had to much freeboard. (scale) Your paint job accomplishes this quite well.

In an attempt to creat more cabin height on my boat, Harvey Halvorsen stepped the sheer (?) to give the boat another 5 or 6 inches of head room down below, thus preserving the scale and look of the boat.

On my boat, freeboard aft was sacrificed for the overall lines of the boat.

Your paint job accomplishes this "look" without any sacrifice in actual freeboard.


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Old 09-29-2010, 10:10 AM   #12
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RE: Reducing glare

Just added some flattening additive to the same color paint.* So you do not need to change color just flattener.
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:31 AM   #13
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I'm thinking of having the pilothouse roof painted international orange.

Aviation Safety Yellow is easier to see ,, and will generate far fewer comments.

A good idea is to paint your documentation number in the roof as large as you can , so its easier seen from a chopper .
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:53 AM   #14
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RE: Reducing glare

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How about San Mateo Wheat (yellowish) or Prairie Beige (brownish) for the cabin roof?
I think that would be a very sharp combination with a dark green hull. As I recall, Bruce Kessler has that combo on his Spirit of Zopilote and it is an incredible looking boat.

Not sure about the International Orange on the pilothouse roof though...*

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RE: Reducing glare

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Not sure about the International Orange on the pilothouse roof though...*



I like the idea. If you are in need of help. You want to be seen.

Besides it would only be seen from above or if she is listing real bad.

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Old 09-29-2010, 01:02 PM   #16
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...* Aviation Safety Yellow is easier to see ,, and will generate far fewer comments. ...

Would that be*be close to*Awlgrip's "Federal Yellow"?*

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Old 09-29-2010, 01:25 PM   #18
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Nice!* And the yellow striping and lettering looks great.* Looks much better than the white stripe and lettering I was considering.

The green I'm considering is darker.

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Nice!* And the yellow striping and lettering looks great.* Looks much better than the white stripe and lettering I was considering.

The green I'm considering is darker.

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I've seen the dark green hulls with gold striping also - looks very elegant.

And another had its transom lettering done in a kind of mauve/purple with yellow shadowing. Sounds odd but looked very striking against the dark green.

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Why not just put a coupla cannons on board and shoot commercial grade fireworks every hour....nobody will ever lose track of you....
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