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09-28-2010, 11:08 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,523
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Reducing glare
I'm thinking of painting the forward-cabin roof a less reflective color.* The superstructure and decks will otherwise be egg-shell white.* Any suggestions?* Currently I'm thinking medium gray.
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09-28-2010, 11:20 PM
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Guru
City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Blue Sky
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs 42 Hull #001
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,966
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RE: Reducing glare
That would depend on your hull colour I would think. As per another thread, if you went with say a dark green hull I would think a light yellow/cream coloured non-skid might look quite nice. It might also look nice with other dark hull colours now that I think about it.
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09-28-2010, 11:48 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,523
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RE: Reducing glare
Quote:
Conrad wrote:
That would depend on your hull colour I would think. As per another thread, if you went with say a dark green hull I would think a light yellow/cream coloured non-skid might look quite nice. It might also look nice with other dark hull colours now that I think about it.
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Yes, I'm currently thinking to have the hull painted jade mist green: a very deep, dark green.
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09-29-2010, 04:05 AM
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Guru
Vessel Name: Anastasia III
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,716
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RE: Reducing glare
My favorite color! It's going to*be hot though. Just like the discussions on biminis, the darker the color the more heat it absorbs. Will be really awesome though. My boot stripe is deep green, painted on with Imron.
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09-29-2010, 09:10 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,624
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RE: Reducing glare
Mark,My boat is mostly white fwd of the helm and I don't have trouble w glare off the boat but glare off the water is a problem. I hang shirts and other clothing from the top of the windows and alter course just enough to put the glare line a bit to the side of my intended course. The air is so clear here that the sun is very bright (when it comes out). I have photo-grey glasses and I put clip on sun glasses behind my regular glasses. The system works very well.
Any dark color will appear black from even a short distance away. On overcast days this will be much more so. If you want to have a green boat perhaps you should pick a green color that you like and then actually choose a green that's 2 or 3 shades lighter. I'm not a fan of dark colored hulls and one does want to be seen on the water * *...in all weather. GBs sometimes come in tan or a nice soft grey-green that I really like. See the buff (very light tan) on my Willy? I plan to paint the hull the same color eventually. Some light colors give a work boat aura like dark colors but are fairly bright and easy to see. I'm surprised how many compliments I've received on Willy's colors. But then I've seen close up pics of Walts boat and it is truly beautiful.
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09-29-2010, 09:16 AM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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RE: Reducing glare
Quote:
markpierce wrote:"I'm currently thinking to have the hull painted jade mist green: a very deep, dark green."
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There's a rather large trawler in my marina with a dark green hull and white
topsides* and it's beautiful. I'll see if I can get some photos.
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09-29-2010, 09:18 AM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,523
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RE: Reducing glare
How about San Mateo Wheat (yellowish) or Prairie Beige (brownish) for the cabin roof?
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09-29-2010, 09:24 AM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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RE: Reducing glare
Quote:
nomadwilly wrote:" I'm surprised how many compliments I've received on Willy's colors. But then I've seen close up pics of Walts boat and it is truly beautiful."
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Don't be surprised at the accolades you've received on "Willy" Eric. If my boat had*
the same lines as yours, I 'd copy your paint job and then I wouldn't tell anyone
where I got the idea from.
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09-29-2010, 09:33 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,037
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RE: Reducing glare
Quote:
markpierce wrote:
I'm thinking of painting the forward-cabin roof a less reflective color.*
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We have*light tan non-skid with Hatteras white border.* We don't have any glare.**I wonder if it is result*that the nonskid is a mat or somewhat flatter finish?*
Larry/Lena
Hobo KK42
La Paz, BCS, MX*
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09-29-2010, 09:37 AM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,523
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RE: Reducing glare
Quote:
nomadwilly wrote:
...*I'm not a fan of dark colored hulls and one does want to be seen on the water * *...in all weather. ...
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I'm thinking of having the pilothouse roof painted international orange.
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09-29-2010, 10:07 AM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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Reducing glare
Quote:
nomadwilly wrote:See the buff (very light tan) on my Willy? I plan to paint the hull the same color eventually.
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Although I think your plan is a good one, the "secret" to your paint job is the dark color below the toprail and gunnel. Your boat has significant freeboard for her length and that dark color reduces the scale (to the eye) of the actual freeboard to length. Tom Fexas wrote an article some years ago (before passing away) about creating a "false Sheer".
This allowed the NA to have a high freeboard, to creat more space down below, without the boat looking like it had to much freeboard. (scale) Your paint job accomplishes this quite well.
In an attempt to creat more cabin height on my boat, Harvey Halvorsen stepped the sheer (?) to give the boat another 5 or 6 inches of head room down below, thus preserving the scale and look of the boat.
On my boat, freeboard aft was sacrificed for the overall lines of the boat.
Your paint job accomplishes this "look" without any sacrifice in actual freeboard.
Just my opinion & the opinion of many naval architecs.
Walt
-- Edited by SeaHorse II on Wednesday 29th of September 2010 11:28:56 AM
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09-29-2010, 10:10 AM
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Guru
City: Everett Wa
Vessel Name: Eagle
Vessel Model: Roughwater 58 pilot house
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,919
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RE: Reducing glare
Just added some flattening additive to the same color paint.* So you do not need to change color just flattener.
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09-29-2010, 11:31 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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RE: Reducing glare
I'm thinking of having the pilothouse roof painted international orange.
Aviation Safety Yellow is easier to see ,, and will generate far fewer comments.
A good idea is to paint your documentation number in the roof as large as you can , so its easier seen from a chopper .
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09-29-2010, 11:53 AM
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Guru
City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Blue Sky
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs 42 Hull #001
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,966
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RE: Reducing glare
Quote:
markpierce wrote:
How about San Mateo Wheat (yellowish) or Prairie Beige (brownish) for the cabin roof?
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I think that would be a very sharp combination with a dark green hull. As I recall, Bruce Kessler has that combo on his Spirit of Zopilote and it is an incredible looking boat.
Not sure about the International Orange on the pilothouse roof though...*
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09-29-2010, 11:56 AM
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Guru
City: Whittier AK
Vessel Name: Apache II
Vessel Model: 1974 Donald Jones
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,147
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RE: Reducing glare
Quote:
Conrad wrote:
Not sure about the International Orange on the pilothouse roof though...*
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I like the idea. If you are in need of help. You want to be seen.
Besides it would only be seen from above or if she is listing real bad.
SD
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09-29-2010, 01:02 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,523
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RE: Reducing glare
Quote:
FF wrote:
...* Aviation Safety Yellow is easier to see ,, and will generate far fewer comments. ...
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Would that be*be close to*Awlgrip's "Federal Yellow"?*
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09-29-2010, 01:18 PM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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RE: Reducing glare
Quote:
SeaHorse II wrote:"There's a rather large trawler in my marina with a dark green hull and white
topsides* and it's beautiful! I'll see if I can get some photos."
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Here she is! One of my top ten boats to see the world in. Is this the color you are
contemplating Mark?
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09-29-2010, 01:25 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Reducing glare
Nice!* And the yellow striping and lettering looks great.* Looks much better than the white stripe and lettering I was considering.
The green I'm considering is darker.
-- Edited by markpierce on Wednesday 29th of September 2010 02:28:10 PM
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09-29-2010, 02:51 PM
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Guru
City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Blue Sky
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs 42 Hull #001
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,966
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RE: Reducing glare
Quote:
markpierce wrote:
Nice!* And the yellow striping and lettering looks great.* Looks much better than the white stripe and lettering I was considering.
The green I'm considering is darker.
-- Edited by markpierce on Wednesday 29th of September 2010 02:28:10 PM
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I've seen the dark green hulls with gold striping also - looks very elegant.
And another had its transom lettering done in a kind of mauve/purple with yellow shadowing. Sounds odd but looked very striking against the dark green.
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09-29-2010, 04:42 PM
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,286
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RE: Reducing glare
Why not just put a coupla cannons on board and shoot commercial grade fireworks every hour....nobody will ever lose track of you....
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