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06-09-2013, 10:58 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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When is your flybridge unsafe?
A boat's motion is magnified the further distance from its center. Waves and wakes can create violent motions in a boat. A flybridge magnifies such effects. So, when do you "abandon" the flybridge for a safer position? or do you just use it in the most benign of conditions? Curious, as I'm flybridge "deficient."
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Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
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06-09-2013, 11:10 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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My wannabe flybridge
Hah! Only in the berth.
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Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
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06-09-2013, 11:13 PM
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Guru
City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,093
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Our flying bridge is where we sit at the end of the day with a cool beverage. I prefer operating the boat from below for the reason you state among others.
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Ray
"Mahalo Moi"
1986 GB-42 Classic
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑβΕ
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06-09-2013, 11:29 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Hope I can get off this hard-rocking flybridge safely! Note "death grip."
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Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
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06-09-2013, 11:32 PM
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Senior Member
City: Abbotsford
Vessel Name: Between boats
Vessel Model: 38' C & L Puget Trawler
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 204
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when the wind speed hits 25knots and the swells about 8ft
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06-09-2013, 11:35 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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We purchased a flybridge deficient boat on purpose. We failed to find one we liked on a sub 30' boat. Thus far we've had no regrets.
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Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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06-10-2013, 05:47 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,150
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when the motion is great enough to make it so.
could be dangerous in a smaller slop or be perfectly safe in 30 foot swells....there's also a difference between the vessel's entire crew going up and down and lounging all day and the helm watch operating from up there as the preferred station for whatever reason.
it's only as dangerous as the crew is careless.
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06-10-2013, 05:49 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Fort Myers, FL
Vessel Name: Tortuga
Vessel Model: Kadey-Krogen 42-125
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 42
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I love the pilot house. That being said, the flybridge can't be beat for maneuvering in/out of the slip or fuel dock. It's also an excellent place for gatherings at anchor or even at the dock.
Chris
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06-10-2013, 08:15 AM
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Guru
City: Seattle, WA
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
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I find the flybridge perfectly safe in most any condition- the height differential isn't that great that I worry about it.
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Peter- Marine Insurance Guru at Novamar Insurance Group (206-350-5051) & tuna fishing addict!
1989 52' PT Overseas yachtfisher
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06-10-2013, 08:36 AM
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Guru
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 651
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Sportfishers only have a flybridge helm yet they go out in much rougher conditions than trawlers.
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06-10-2013, 08:45 AM
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Guru
City: Seattle, WA
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahal
Sportfishers only have a flybridge helm yet they go out in much rougher conditions than trawlers.
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Yup- I grew up fishing on Bertram, Skipjacks, and the like. Never had problems, and enjoyed the greater visibility to find the fish.
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Peter- Marine Insurance Guru at Novamar Insurance Group (206-350-5051) & tuna fishing addict!
1989 52' PT Overseas yachtfisher
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06-10-2013, 10:39 AM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
We purchased a flybridge deficient boat on purpose. We failed to find one we liked on a sub 30' boat. Thus far we've had no regrets.
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Capt. Craig, it is offensive to refer to such craft as "flybridge deficient". We have been fighting against such prejudicial remarks. I am surprised that one of our own would do such a thing.
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06-10-2013, 10:51 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Smithers/Prince Rupert, BC
Vessel Name: Ai Tu Taki
Vessel Model: 1978 Tollycraft 30 Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 30
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Quote:
Capt. Craig, it is offensive to refer to such craft as "flybridge deficient".
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Re-read OP's post number 1.
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06-10-2013, 11:00 AM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,075
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahal
Sportfishers only have a flybridge helm yet they go out in much rougher conditions than trawlers.
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At much higher speeds. I love being on the flybridge on my sister's Post, not so much my parents Mainship.
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06-10-2013, 11:31 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 182
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I like the flybridge for visibility, particularly offshore looking for crab pots. For safety, I rig jacklines and use tethers and life jackets (suspender types) for the crew to maneuver safely.
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06-10-2013, 02:08 PM
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Guru
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 741
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It becomes unsafe just before you realize it's too rough to risk the transit from the upper to the lower helm...
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06-10-2013, 03:07 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck
Capt. Craig, it is offensive to refer to such craft as "flybridge deficient". We have been fighting against such prejudicial remarks. I am surprised that one of our own would do such a thing.
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Ted, I appreciate the thought but Don is correct as always. I shouldn't have taken the bait.
A thousand pardons Brother Don. What act of penance will be required before I'm allowed to hit 4,000+ RPM again sir?
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Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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06-10-2013, 03:15 PM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
Ted, I appreciate the thought but Don is correct as always. I shouldn't have taken the bait.
A thousand pardons Brother Don. What act of penance will be required before I'm allowed to hit 4,000+ RPM again sir?
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4000 rpm! Now you're talking. Take her out and enjoy.
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06-10-2013, 03:19 PM
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Guru
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,037
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I always run the boat from the flybridge.
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Jay Leonard
Ex boats: 1983 40 Albin trunk cabin, 1978 Mainship 34 Model 1
New Port Richey, Fl
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06-10-2013, 04:17 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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