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10-27-2017, 03:14 PM
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#81
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City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,774
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Originally Posted by smitty477
As with all areas of the USA the statistics for violent crime are very localized. You can be in a low crime city but a high crime local neighborhood or visa versa quite easily - pays to do your research carefully and in detail.
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This is very true and a reason to visit the area you are considering.
My city only recently got off the ten most dangerous cities list but my part of the city (and most parts of the city) are just like the rest of the country. The violent crime is concentrated in certain areas. Most folks don't go in those parts of town unless they live there.
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10-27-2017, 03:21 PM
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#82
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City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,774
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The FL information request started out as general but then moved to Miami. In any event, it focused on the east coast with a little on the west coast.
Not mentioned was the interior of FL. I'm not talking about Orlando, but rural FL. Indiantown would be an example but the towns along the St. Johns river are other examples. Depending on what he is looking for, housing and the cost of living could be very reasonable.
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10-27-2017, 03:32 PM
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#83
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Guru
City: Palm Coast, FL
Vessel Name: Coquina
Vessel Model: Lagoon 380
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,494
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Originally Posted by WesK
The FL information request started out as general but then moved to Miami. In any event, it focused on the east coast with a little on the west coast.
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due to post #12.
I do love a lot of rural FL. Ft White area. I used to think it was too cold in the winter, but I've changed my mind in the last 5 years. It is HOT HOT in the summer though, with little breeze. I want to live upstate FL in the winter and lower keys in the summer. Gotta find some way.
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10-27-2017, 04:35 PM
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#84
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,519
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Please go/stay to Florida because we're crowded enough. Here the parking lots in strip malls are full and car traffic is overwhelming. Seems like most everyone is shopping for whatever what, and it's not a temporary thing.
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10-27-2017, 04:49 PM
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#85
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,451
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Group9
As to the credit card and bank fraud and scams run, I'm afraid it isn't directly a South Florida thing. However, it's increased everywhere and especially fraud against senior citizens. So, since South Florida obviously has man, it has more than it's share. We're in a time in which protecting us against fraud is difficult. Look at Experian and their disaster letting information be gotten, then they're trying to talk you into using them to protect you.
Post hurricane will definitely bring out the scammers, just walking the neighborhoods looking for victims.
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10-27-2017, 04:50 PM
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#86
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
Please go/stay to Florida because we're crowded enough. Here the parking lots in strip malls are full and car traffic is overwhelming. Seems like most everyone is shopping for whatever what, and it's not a temporary thing.
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Wifey B: What are you doing when you run across all the shoppers? 
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10-27-2017, 05:10 PM
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#87
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,519
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Originally Posted by BandB
Wifey B: What are you doing when you run across all the shoppers? |
Best to stay at home or the boat!
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10-27-2017, 05:37 PM
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#88
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,774
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AusCan
Really? You must be talking about American cities only.
I'm in a city of 1.2 million and there is no worry of going anywhere at any time of day or night.
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I often read comment like yours from Australians. You should remember that your country is pretty much one race and one culture. For whatever reasons, mixtures of races and cultures as well as (imagined) loss of opportunity and (again, imagined) "second class citizenship" tend to breed crime.
It's easy to say '"If we could get rid of all the (insert a race or culture here)s, crime would go way down." but it's not going to happen, nor should it.
A large part of crime in the USA is drug related. If you have a suggestion for the USA to lower the crime rate, please don't keep it a secret, let it out.
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10-27-2017, 06:27 PM
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#89
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 12,792
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WesK
I often read comment like yours from Australians. You should remember that your country is pretty much one race and one culture. ...
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Why should Australians "remember" the falsity you assert?
You are simply wrong about the racial backgrounds and cultural mix of Australia`s multicultural society.
Please do not post misleading nonsense.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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10-27-2017, 09:52 PM
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#90
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Guru
City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Scot Free
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 53' Efficient
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 752
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Bruce is right. I have visited many parts of Australia over the years. Although the brits had an aggressive emigration plan, the Australians have a healthy Greek, Italian, Vietnamese, Indian, other Asian, Pacific Islander and Aboriginal populations.
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10-28-2017, 09:06 AM
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#91
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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"A large part of crime in the USA is drug related. If you have a suggestion for the USA to lower the crime rate, please don't keep it a secret, let it out."
Folks will drink, some think its the reason folks settled down to farm,the desire for an "altered "state of being has been with us forever.
We spend billions on "drug and alcohol" problems with never a cure.
Our drug companies need to come up with mood altering drugs that can be easily and quickly reversed.
No drunk driving , take a sniff from a spray can and poof your sober.
No heroin , coke or other dependancys , just a sip of whatever and your "normal".
Not gona happen as the cartels, DEA ,court system and prisons would be unemployed .
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10-28-2017, 10:06 AM
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#92
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Please do not post misleading nonsense.
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Explaining geometry to cats can be fun and entertaining. Marlon Brando starred in a movie adaptation of a William J. Lederer novel the title of which describes folks like him.
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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10-28-2017, 01:47 PM
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Guru
City: Bay Saint Louis, Mississippi, (or where the anchor drops)
Vessel Model: 1973 42 Bertram MY
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,466
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
"A large part of crime in the USA is drug related. If you have a suggestion for the USA to lower the crime rate, please don't keep it a secret, let it out."
Folks will drink, some think its the reason folks settled down to farm,the desire for an "altered "state of being has been with us forever.
We spend billions on "drug and alcohol" problems with never a cure.
Our drug companies need to come up with mood altering drugs that can be easily and quickly reversed.
No drunk driving , take a sniff from a spray can and poof your sober.
No heroin , coke or other dependancys , just a sip of whatever and your "normal".
Not gona happen as the cartels, DEA ,court system and prisons would be unemployed .
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There is another special component to violent crime in the US, due to our history and "the peculiar institution " that most other countries don't have. No one knows what to do about that, either, although Daniel Patrick Moynihan came closest to figuring out what caused it.
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10-30-2017, 05:47 AM
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#94
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, fl
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37 2002
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,231
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Cheap Living On The Water With Your Boat Behind Your House.
No Public Beach So No Weekend Traffic.
Centrally Located For Easy Access To Sarasota or Fort Myers Without Any Traffic Problems.
Punta Gorda, FL south neighborhoods. ❤️
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10-30-2017, 09:27 AM
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#95
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,964
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Tug
I am buying a boat who’s home Port is PG. parts were hard hit by the hurricane and Ned to be dredged. Where he is I have to plan my trip at half tide or higher. It is a nice slow city but I understand in winter it is very busy.
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10-30-2017, 10:45 AM
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#96
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, fl
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37 2002
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,231
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigsfish
Tug
I am buying a boat who’s home Port is PG. parts were hard hit by the hurricane and Ned to be dredged. Where he is I have to plan my trip at half tide or higher. It is a nice slow city but I understand in winter it is very busy.
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Punta Gorda Isles is one large housing area that is on a canal system. 5000+ home sites, all with City of Punta Gorda maintained sea walls. It is these sea walls that got “Hit Hard”. 20% of them failed when all of the water in the canals was pulled out by Hurricane Irma. The city is repairing them as we speak. During season if ten cars at a stop light is what you call “Very Busy”, then I guess we are busy. But you NEVER don’t get through a light at every cycle. So no, we never get very busy. Alligator creek is the canal system that requires half to high tide to transit. PGI not so much unless there is a winter NE wind blow out.
Happy Cruising
Nordic Tugs Are Cool
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10-30-2017, 10:52 AM
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#97
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,964
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Certainly a beautiful area. The guy I’m buying the boat from (Paul) doesn’t even get hit by the red tide he is so far up the canal. He tells me in season he has to wait for tables in better restaurants. (That’s busy). Interesting the city owns the sea wall.
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10-30-2017, 02:05 PM
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#98
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, fl
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37 2002
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,231
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigsfish
Certainly a beautiful area. The guy I’m buying the boat from (Paul) doesn’t even get hit by the red tide he is so far up the canal. He tells me in season he has to wait for tables in better restaurants. (That’s busy). Interesting the city owns the sea wall.
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One of the rare situations where the city owns and maintains the sea walls. Owners pay $500 per year to the city. The average lot has 70’ of sea wall at a value of $35,000.00. It’s a bargain.
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10-30-2017, 03:27 PM
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#99
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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Why not live aboard for a while as you get to know the area? If you don't like it move.
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10-30-2017, 03:52 PM
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#100
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Guru
City: Cary, NC
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,841
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bayview
Why not live aboard for a while as you get to know the area? If you don't like it move.
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That is certainly a possibility. There are tons of details like what to do with the current house and belongings. TBH, i don’t think we can (or want to) afford to keep the Cary house (and I doubt we could rent it short term) and afford to stay in a $20+/ft marina in FL.
You know... those kind of details :-)
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