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01-27-2023, 10:02 AM
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Senior Member
City: Bellingham
Vessel Name: Knot Hours
Vessel Model: Hatteras 58 LRC
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 258
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Raw Water Gasket Sealants?
Has anyone found a sealant or something that will seal raw water-side gaskets? My DD 4-71Ns had the heat exchangers cleaned and the gaskets replaced 2 yrs ago, but within 18 months or so I could see salt blooms beginning to seep out at the top and sides of all the gaskets. On certain gaskets the mech who was showing me how to do it used a red substance on them that stayed sticky for months, and on some he used red RTV, but they all eventually seeped. Any success stories out there?
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01-28-2023, 04:14 PM
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Senior Member
City: Langhorne
Vessel Name: Quiet Storm
Vessel Model: Nordlund 61
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 161
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rtv red works great. The trick is install the gasket with the rtf. Tighten not to spec. . let sit 24 hrs. and tighten to spec.
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01-28-2023, 04:16 PM
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Senior Member
City: Langhorne
Vessel Name: Quiet Storm
Vessel Model: Nordlund 61
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Posts: 161
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This will fill any compromises in the mating surfaces.
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01-28-2023, 04:27 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,023
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Greetings,
Mr. J. ANY RTV product has NO place on a boat IMO! Since it already has been applied I fear anything short of more RTV (which will fail AGAIN) is going to fail unless you can completely remove all traces of said RTV. VERY difficult to remove to the point where a proper sealant will do it's job.
I suspect the red "substance" the mechanic used hay have been something like this:
https://www.permatex.com/products/ga...-sealant-4-oz/.
I've called Permatex technical support in the past and they've been helpful.
https://www.permatex.com/contact
I'm sure they're quite familiar with DD's.
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01-28-2023, 04:29 PM
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Senior Member
City: Langhorne
Vessel Name: Quiet Storm
Vessel Model: Nordlund 61
Join Date: Sep 2022
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ok everyone has their opinions I guess?
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01-28-2023, 05:36 PM
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Veteran Member
Vessel Model: 1984 Sunnfjord 42
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliet 15
On certain gaskets the mech who was showing me how to do it used a red substance on them that stayed sticky for months, and on some he used red RTV, but they all eventually seeped. Any success stories out there?
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The red, sticky stuff was probably Permatex High Tack gasket sealant. I've had good luck with it on water pumps.
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01-28-2023, 07:20 PM
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Guru
City: Guelph
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: 50` US Navy Utility trawler conversion
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,037
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Aren't they the same thing, essentially?
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01-29-2023, 11:02 AM
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Veteran Member
Vessel Model: 1984 Sunnfjord 42
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff F
Aren't they the same thing, essentially?
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Permatex uses the terms "gasket sealers" and "gasket makers". The former is used to enhance a gasket seal, the latter can be used to replace a gasket.
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01-29-2023, 11:28 AM
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Guru
City: Oconto, WI
Vessel Name: Best Alternative
Vessel Model: 36 Albin Aft Cabin
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Next year I am going to try cutting a new cork gasket, a thick one, maybe 1/8 inch. Clean the surfaces and try it dry. I'm sick of scraping old gasket goop off the surfaces. There is really minimal pressure there.
pete
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01-29-2023, 11:48 AM
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Veteran Member
Vessel Model: 1984 Sunnfjord 42
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete Meisinger
Next year I am going to try cutting a new cork gasket, a thick one, maybe 1/8 inch.
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If you don't already have a set, be sure to pick up a set of gasket hole punches. Makes a world of difference.
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01-30-2023, 08:04 AM
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Guru
City: Olympia
Vessel Name: Rendezvous
Vessel Model: Blue water 40
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 891
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01-30-2023, 08:23 AM
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Senior Member
City: Jupiter
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 115
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I had the same problem with my 3208 gear cooler. Tried everything over the years and eventually leaked. Was sealing portholes with Butyl tape and thought - nothing to lose. Left the gasket out and just used the tape. Hasn't leaked in 2 years.
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01-30-2023, 09:26 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,023
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Greetings,
Mr. h. I used to keep these on board. For larger holes I would just nibble around the edges.
About $15 or so...
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01-30-2023, 10:26 AM
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Senior Member
City: Bellingham
Vessel Name: Knot Hours
Vessel Model: Hatteras 58 LRC
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 258
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmarler
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How do you remove that?
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01-30-2023, 10:36 AM
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Guru
City: Olympia
Vessel Name: Rendezvous
Vessel Model: Blue water 40
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 891
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliet 15
How do you remove that?
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I use a gasket scraper and solvent. To be clear, I use it on seals or gaskets I will be replacing.
If you’re sealing rubber gaskets that you intend to reuse, I’d go with the earlier suggestion of a good rtv. I like ultra black rtv, and follow the advice to assemble it, but not torque it till the next day.
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02-03-2023, 04:44 PM
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Newbie
City: burgaw
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 2
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sealant
I agree with Bmarler, I was an auto mechanic for 40 years and have always done all my boat repairs. I have used Permatex Aviation Form-a-gasket for many years with good results. I found ATV was good for lighter duty jobs such as valve covers,ect.
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02-03-2023, 05:24 PM
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Veteran Member
City: cambridge
Vessel Model: wilbur 38
Join Date: Jul 2021
Posts: 32
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My favorite gasket maker/sealer was from Toyota called " FIPG" formed in place gasket , others have similar it is a type of anaerobic sealer
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02-03-2023, 07:28 PM
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Senior Member
City: Bellingham
Vessel Name: Knot Hours
Vessel Model: Hatteras 58 LRC
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 258
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Thanks for all the input and recommendations. I went with Loctite 518 gasket maker/gasket sealer (their words). I'll let you know in 18 months how it turned out....
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02-03-2023, 09:19 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Amsterdam
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 89
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we use some 3mm thick bio fuel resistant rubber. which we cut on size. a sheet is cheap and use if for any kind of heavy gasket
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02-03-2023, 09:58 PM
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Senior Member
City: Tasmania
Vessel Model: Old Town Loon
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 216
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Loctite 515 is what I use and have always been happy with. Just smear it on both sides of the gasket.
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