Quick MC2 Gyro Stabilzers

[MurrayM]

Quick has a new gyro stabilizer. It has a vertical flywheel, needs no water cooling, consumes less energy, is physically smaller than other stabilizers, is easier to install, and is purported to cost 20% less.

Anybody seen one yet?

https://www.boatsales.com.au/editori...-claims-59044/

[Delfin]

Originally Posted by MurrayM

Quick has a new gyro stabilizer. It has a vertical flywheel, needs no water cooling, consumes less energy, is physically smaller than other stabilizers, is easier to install, and is purported to cost 20% less.

Anybody seen one yet?

https://www.boatsales.com.au/editori...-claims-59044/

$107,000? Did I read that right?

[CPseudonym]

Originally Posted by Delfin

$107,000? Did I read that right?

AU

Not including installation

[MurrayM]

Aussie dollars (lose 20% on US exchange rate) for a 33t (Aussie weight) vessel...no plumbing and easier installation...probably ends up being cheaper.

Haven't crunched the numbers yet in a critical way, or verified their claims.

Interesting though.

[Benthic2]

I think you might get more increase in stability by applying that $100k into a bigger boat.

[Delfin]

Originally Posted by MurrayM

Aussie dollars (lose 20% on US exchange rate) for a 33t (Aussie weight) vessel...no plumbing and easier installation...probably ends up being cheaper.

Haven't crunched the numbers yet in a critical way, or verified their claims.

Interesting though.

Not so sure about easier. If hydraulics have some utility on boats, fins are just another function for a system with many other uses, but I guess it depends on the boat.

[MurrayM]

Originally Posted by Delfin

Not so sure about easier. If hydraulics have some utility on boats, fins are just another function for a system with many other uses, but I guess it depends on the boat.

Are you talking fins?..it's a gyro..

Found a quote from Hamble Yacht Services for a mc2 rated for a 10 ton boat at 16,000 British Pounds, or 21,260 US dollars.

http://www.hambleyachtservices.co.uk...sers-and-gyros

No idea about quality, noise, vibration, or anything else...just tossing in another can we can kick down the road.

[Delfin]

Originally Posted by MurrayM

Are you talking fins?..it's a gyro..

Found a quote from Hamble Yacht Services for a mc2 rated for a 10 ton boat at 16,000 British Pounds, or 21,260 US dollars.

http://www.hambleyachtservices.co.uk...sers-and-gyros

No idea about quality, noise, vibration, or anything else...just tossing in another can we can kick down the road.

Yes, I did notice the word gyro. I gather gyros work almost as well in moderate conditions as fins, and not so well in extreme conditions. If the continuous power requirements, noise, warm up delay, increased internal space requirements and generally increased cost compared to other options are no issue, then they are certainly one viable option. No expert here, but my Trac system cost around $75k for a 65t vessel, and that included the hardware for hydraulics that power fore and aft windlasses, a high pressure washer, mast winches, and a 300gpm de watering pump. That's 2007 $ so no doubt more today. Not installed, mind you, but as I said, whether any gyro is "less expensive" will depend on the vessel, and your desire for effectiveness.

http://www.jimmyrogersyachtbroker.co...-need-to-know/

[MurrayM]

Thanks for the link, but was comparing gyro to gyro costs.

Don't know if the propaganda can be trusted, but they say the mc2 gyros don't have to be turned off in extreme condition like some do.

Some people don't want extra holes in their hulls, or appendages getting tangled in kelp while sneaking through skinny water passages, making a gyro a tempting stabilization solution.

[Delfin]

Originally Posted by MurrayM

Thanks for the link, but was comparing gyro to gyro costs.

Don't know if the propaganda can be trusted, but they say the mc2 gyros don't have to be turned off in extreme condition like some do.

Some people don't want extra holes in their hulls, or appendages getting tangled in kelp while sneaking through skinny water passages, making a gyro a tempting stabilization solution.

Having cruised for a decade with fins without getting tangled in kelp, I can't comment on the merits of that idea.

[Comodave]

As to the appendage issue, ask the owner of the KK 42 that grounded in the TSW this summer. Narrow passage and high water and currents resulted in a fin striking a rock and the boat sank closing the TSW for a couple of days.

[Delfin]

Originally Posted by Comodave

As to the appendage issue, ask the owner of the KK 42 that grounded in the TSW this summer. Narrow passage and high water and currents resulted in a fin striking a rock and the boat sank closing the TSW for a couple of days.

Yep, weak installation on a cored fiberglass hull and you could run into trouble, just as weak installations on gyros have run into terrible.

[Comodave]

I would love to have a gyro in our boat. I do not have room for fin stabilizers any where in the engine room. Now I just need the money to buy one...

[MurrayM]

Originally Posted by Delfin

Having cruised for a decade with fins without getting tangled in kelp, I can't comment on the merits of that idea.

Your keel is a smidge deeper than ours, so you probably don't get as close to shore as we do while photographing scenes or critters. Also, there are areas around here which remain uncharted (because it's so twisty & shallow) which are calling to us.

Gyro is one option of several.