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07-09-2020, 04:57 PM
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City: Bethesda, MD
Vessel Name: Solstice
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 47 Eastbay FB
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Problem near Port Townsend?
Came across this elsewhere online. This is all I've been able to find out about it.
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Thoughts and prayers to the owners of this nice looking trawler, currently dealing with sinking just off Point Hudson in Port Townsend
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marinetraffic and fleetmon don't show AIS for anything other than an 'EJFR SAR' vessel in the area. Which I'm assuming means East Jefferson Fire and Rescue.
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07-09-2020, 05:13 PM
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City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
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Wow that sucks. My guess is he was sinking and tried to beach her?
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07-09-2020, 05:21 PM
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City: US PNW
Join Date: Nov 2018
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Heartbreaking - what a beautiful boat.
https://www.peninsuladailynews.com/n...-townsend-bay/
PORT TOWNSEND — Three people and their dog were rescued from their boat sinking in Port Townsend Bay on Thursday. No one was hurt.
As of 2 p.m., the boat continued to sink just off the east side of Point Hudson, with the U.S. Coast Guard taking over the scene at about 1:15 p.m.
The Port Townsend Police Department, East Jefferson Fire and Rescue, and the Coast Guard answered a call for help at call at about 12:35 p.m. Thursday.
The call came from the three passengers on board, who were out in the Port Townsend Bay as their 49-foot wood hull boat began taking on water following a loss of power.
Initially, EJFR was going to take the boat to the haul-out at Point Hudson, but it was determined that it was too big for the haul out to manage, and rescuers decided it would be brought close to shore. At this time, it is unknown what caused the ship to lose power and take on water.
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07-09-2020, 05:44 PM
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City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
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Anyone else thinking that the order of events was likely taking on water and then losing power, vs the other way around?
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07-09-2020, 05:49 PM
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City: US PNW
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Unless they were relying on bilge pumps and lost DC "power"? But your idea sounds more likely. It's not hard to imagine some confusion on board (and then there is the chain of communication to the article).
The boat looks neat as a pin.
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07-09-2020, 05:50 PM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty
Unless they were relying on bilge pumps and lost DC "power"? But your idea sounds more likely. It's not hard to imagine some confusion on board (and then there is the chain of communication to the article).
The boat looks neat as a pin.
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Yeah, photos can often make a boat look better, that boat looks great. I suppose it could have just come from some refitting work at the PT boat yard....
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07-09-2020, 05:51 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
Anyone else thinking that the order of events was likely taking on water and then losing power, vs the other way around?
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Yes .....but exact timing of which is worse is not easy to determine by the average boater.
some boaters drive around with hulls full of water and don't notice it....sometimes the engine is pumping the boat full of water....overheats and seizes....then the boat continues to fill with the clueless boater standing by.
ya never know till a bit of investigation.
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07-09-2020, 07:20 PM
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
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First question through my mind is what first alerted them to the flooding? Having swum in the bilge of a flooding 60-foot Chris Craft (NOT mine) looking for (and thankfully finding and stopping the source of water), I am maybe a bit more aware than most of the sense of panic and doom which must be suppressed to save the boat in such a situation. My boats always have bilge alarms at the helm loud enough to be heard in the sleeping quarters.
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FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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07-09-2020, 08:10 PM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Model: Helmsman 4304
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rgano
First question through my mind is what first alerted them to the flooding? Having swum in the bilge of a flooding 60-foot Chris Craft (NOT mine) looking for (and thankfully finding and stopping the source of water), I am maybe a bit more aware than most of the sense of panic and doom which must be suppressed to save the boat in such a situation. My boats always have bilge alarms at the helm loud enough to be heard in the sleeping quarters.
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We are offshore fairly often so finding and securing a leak is one of the things I think about. I have the usual assortment of stuff to deal with it including plugs. Rescue Tape saved our A$& on a previous boat when we were 30 miles out, but that was a different story and we were never in danger of sinking. Curious to hear how you located the source of flooding, and what you did to secure it if you don’t mind sharing.
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07-09-2020, 10:12 PM
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City: Port Townsend Washington
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One of my Employees who is also a firefighter was a responded to the incident, said the dewatering pump they put aboard could not keep up with the water ingress so the decision was to beach it, most of our bay is 80' or so deep so its easier to deal with on the beach. Looks like a well kept Alaskan 49
Carl on Delfin was a near the scene he may chime in with details..
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07-10-2020, 07:58 AM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,073
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Sprung plank?
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07-10-2020, 09:15 AM
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletcher500
Curious to hear how you located the source of flooding, and what you did to secure it if you don’t mind sharing.
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The whole story of that delivery 31 years ago could flesh out a small book, but suffice it to say, after the desertion of the owner and his two relatives after a rough night rounding Point Conception, I was left alone aboard in Morro Bay with the final destination of San Francisco. With seas moderating a day later, I set off and ended up calling the Coast Guard as the big Detroits began to show signs of clogging filters - too rough to attempt replacing them (no switchable filters here). The USCG suggested a cove 20-30 miles south of Monterey, and in a couple hours I was safely anchored and able to go below where I discovered the water up to the top of the engine stringers with four wonky Par diaphragm bilge pumps (the one with the belt-driven pump) all lined up on a mounting board spinning away pumping nothing. Every one of them had a mechanical problem ranging from stripped set screws on the gears to broken belts lying alongside the pump. Float switches in the various remote compartments serviced had activated them, and maybe they had pumped for a bit early on. Being at anchor with the engines secured made for a quiet and calm engine room, but the leak was not there. I ending up in the forward bilge on my knees up to my neck in water approaching the deck over my head when I saw an up-welling on the surface of the water. My hand found the half-inch diameter aluminum pipe supplying the water maker coming up from the keel (aluminum hull) gushing water. The water maker was mounted to a board which oddly was not secured, and the rough seas which had stirred the gunk up in the fuel tanks causing the clogging of filters in turn causing me to turn into the cover had shaken the water maker around until it broke the supply pipe which by the way had no seacock valve. A rag and a screw driver stopped the leak, but I still had no operable bilge pump; so I reached up over my head and yanked the hose loose from the forward shower pan drain, stuck it into the water and turned on the shower drain pump from inside the shower stall. It took a few hours, but I had a dry bilge before bedtime. This epic included the 13-foot Boston Whaler dink breaking free on the upper deck and swinging around at the end of its crane in 14-foot seas; the swim platform coming loose under my feet as I rescued the dink; a fire breaking out on the stove while underway one night; and the hydraulic steering gong mushy causing me to ending sliding under the Golden Gate sort of sideways. Deliveries can be so much fun. The boat was left safely moored to a pier in San Fran with the dink in place on top in its cradle and the swim step lashed along side it ready for a the repair gang to reattach it and sort out the steering and correct the water maker issues.
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FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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07-10-2020, 09:18 AM
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Senior Member
City: Med
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 135
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
Yeah, photos can often make a boat look better, that boat looks great. I suppose it could have just come from some refitting work at the PT boat yard....
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Probably on test runs? The mast and the boat deck do not look fully commissioned yet
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07-10-2020, 09:21 AM
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Guru
City: Bethesda, MD
Vessel Name: Solstice
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rgano
...yanked the hose loose from the forward shower pan drain, stuck it into the water and turned on the shower drain pump from inside the shower stall. It took a few hours, but I had a dry bilge before bedtime.
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Any pump is a good pump if it's working.
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2005 Eastbay 47 FB - Solstice, w/Highfield CL360 tender
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07-10-2020, 10:06 AM
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Senior Member
City: Carefree, AZ and Ft. Myers Beach, FL
Vessel Name: Sea-N-Stars
Vessel Model: 1990 49' Albin
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 304
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Quite a story, rgano. Thanks for typing it up for us.
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07-10-2020, 10:52 AM
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City: San Diego
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ2Loop
Quite a story, rgano. Thanks for typing it up for us.
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Yes it was. Well done Rgano.
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07-10-2020, 11:56 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Westerly, RI
Vessel Name: N/A
Vessel Model: 1999 Mainship 350 Trawler
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy
Sprung plank?
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It's a fiberglass boat. If you click and enlarge the image, you'll see the plank grooves are cosmetic. They are in the fiberglass/gelcoat and they all terminate several inches before reaching the bow. There is no vertical seem along the bow to indicate it's a wooden boat.
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07-10-2020, 12:29 PM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrew
It's a fiberglass boat. If you click and enlarge the image, you'll see the plank grooves are cosmetic. They are in the fiberglass/gelcoat and they all terminate several inches before reaching the bow. There is no vertical seem along the bow to indicate it's a wooden boat.
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Just going off what the news article says:
"The call came from the three passengers on board, who were out in the Port Townsend Bay as their 49-foot wood hull boat began taking on water following a loss of power."
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07-10-2020, 02:03 PM
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Guru
City: Bethesda, MD
Vessel Name: Solstice
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 47 Eastbay FB
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Noted elsewhere:
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"Fresh launch after being on the hard for awhile. Filled 600gal of fuel shortly after launch, raising the water line to less swollen planks, bilge pump broke, down she went."
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2005 Eastbay 47 FB - Solstice, w/Highfield CL360 tender
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07-10-2020, 02:29 PM
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,977
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wkearney99
Any pump is a good pump if it's working.
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Ever since, I refuse to go anywhere in a vessel without bilge alarm(s) at the conn.
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Rich Gano
FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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