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01-19-2018, 11:04 PM
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City: Puyallup, WA
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1k includes the haulout The boat is in the water and in Olympia
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Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Where does the boat lie now?
$1000 is a chunk of change for many of us. If the boat is very near a mechanic you could, most likely get a survey covering most of engine issues that frequently come up. I moor at LaConner and there is more than one possibility here and perhaps in Everett too.
Look at it from an hourly basis. If you were a mechanic and perhaps even slow in winter and were only a few minutes from a boat spending 1.5 to two hours (two to $300) on a less than a full survey I'll bet you'd do it. You'd probably cover 3/4 or more of the usual survey for 25% of the cost. I wouldn't just throw $1000 down that hole either and I'm assuming this boat has a single engine and is in the water.
Just a thought.
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01-20-2018, 12:00 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
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Should be able to do a pretty good survey in the water.
The haul out is probably for the hull survey.
We were in Olympia last spring .. when they broke the windows at Starbucks in the big demonstration.
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North Western Washington State USA
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01-20-2018, 12:15 AM
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City: Puyallup, WA
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Damn...that must have been crazy. Yes the haulout is for the hull survey
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Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Should be able to do a pretty good survey in the water.
The haul out is probably for the hull survey.
We were in Olympia last spring .. when they broke the windows at Starbucks in the big demonstration.
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01-20-2018, 03:31 PM
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Senior Member
City: Pensacola
Vessel Name: CLASSEA
Vessel Model: 1988 Defever 41
Join Date: Apr 2017
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If nothing else, you can purchase oil sample kits ($35-45) and pull an oil sample after the engine runs and heats up, transmission oil as well and send it for analysis of wear and other potential issues. Google Diesel engine oil and transmission oil analysis . . . at lest you will get a little insight.
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01-20-2018, 04:47 PM
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City: Puyallup, WA
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Awesome...just ordered my kit. thanks for the info...
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Originally Posted by JimW
If nothing else, you can purchase oil sample kits ($35-45) and pull an oil sample after the engine runs and heats up, transmission oil as well and send it for analysis of wear and other potential issues. Google Diesel engine oil and transmission oil analysis . . . at lest you will get a little insight.
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01-31-2018, 05:24 PM
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City: Puyallup, WA
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So survey went very well. Fuel tanks look great with so signs of rust on the outside. A couple of soft spots on the deck but nothing too serious. We plan to keep her in a covered slip. A few small electrical things need to be taken care if, as in terminals that need to be covered and wing nuts removed.
Th only major thing was it will need a new how water heater and that's something that should be pretty easy for my skills.
Next up is mechanical. A couple of the injectors show a small leak and the raw water pump has a small leak as well. Just want to be safe.
Haul out was done and the bottom is sound with no issues. Zincs are already replaced, just needs bottom paint.
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01-31-2018, 05:41 PM
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City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
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Originally Posted by Mgtgrafix
Next up is mechanical. A couple of the injectors show a small leak and the raw water pump has a small leak as well. Just want to be safe.
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If it`s a Ford Lehman,rather than repair your rw pump,consider the replacement updated version available from American Diesel featuring an improved drive, not prone to breaking like the original.
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Sydney Australia
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01-31-2018, 05:46 PM
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City: Puyallup, WA
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That's exactly the direction I'm planning on going Bruce
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01-31-2018, 07:23 PM
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City: Surrey BC
Vessel Name: Windrush IV
Vessel Model: CHB 34
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Good luck.
I purchased a CHB 34 last spring myself so am aware of the nerves lol. 2 small bits of advice. First, make damn sure you have a surveyor that knows his job top to bottom, stem to stern but also is totally aware of who he is working for. Second, do not pass on having a competent marine mechanic do a full inspection complete with oil analysis (both engine and gear box). If possible try to coordinate having the mechanic and the surveyor both aboard for the sea trial.
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01-31-2018, 07:26 PM
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City: Puyallup, WA
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Done and done. Our surveyor, when we met said "I work for you". Our survey was 7 hours. He checked everything. I did my research from the advise here and the CHB checklist and made sure all was done. He's the one who told me to make sure to do the mechanical survey. Setting that up now.
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01-31-2018, 07:36 PM
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Member
City: Surrey BC
Vessel Name: Windrush IV
Vessel Model: CHB 34
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Not at all sure I want a mech that will check 70 or 80% for 25% because he is a little slow lol. The guys that did mine found things that might not have shown up had they not been on the sea trial. The engine work, $4,700. CDN would have been on me so thanks guy's (you know who you are). Also I should add that even with American Diesel reopened parts are still becoming quite hard to find for some things.
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02-02-2018, 12:28 AM
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City: Puyallup, WA
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Mechanical setup for Saturday. Wish me luck..lol
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02-06-2018, 03:52 PM
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City: Puyallup, WA
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We pulled the trigger!!! The engine survey went very well. It showed slight leak at the raw water pump and a stuffing box that needs adjustment. Also the fuel injector pump needs a rebuilt by the end of this year. He said that the Lehman 120 received a lot love and it shows.
From the main survey we will need to replace the hot water heater, so overall pretty darn good.
Because if the findings we were able to renegotiate the price and it was accepted by the owner. Should close on her next week.
Pretty darn excited!!!
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02-06-2018, 06:12 PM
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Senior Member
City: Victoria, BC
Vessel Name: Timeless
Vessel Model: CHB 34
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Congratulations!
Pictures please.
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02-06-2018, 06:15 PM
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City: Au Gres, MI
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Congrats.
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02-06-2018, 11:49 PM
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Member
City: Surrey BC
Vessel Name: Windrush IV
Vessel Model: CHB 34
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Congrats. I hope the boat serves you well and you and yours enjoy it. We may see you out there some day.
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02-06-2018, 11:53 PM
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City: Puyallup, WA
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Thank you all. I only have pics from the brokerage web site and will post pics when i can. We are beyond excited
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02-07-2018, 05:54 AM
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Senior Member
City: Green Cove Springs,FL
Vessel Name: No Destination
Vessel Model: 1972 GulfStar Trawler 36
Join Date: Apr 2016
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I had MT34 1973. It is plywood/balsa boat. Every 5 feet, there are support posts - from inside they may look good, but need to check the bottom. I spend a year in work yard to rebuild that boat. Check the raw water pump. Is easy to take off and see if is gear or U shape finger driven. If U shape then replace. $600. Fresh water pump $120. my shaft was bronze and shows oxidation(pink spots). replace with stainless- $650. No need to drop the rudder It does have a hole. So much to list of what I did, but at the end was a good solid boat.
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02-07-2018, 06:19 PM
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#39
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City: Puyallup, WA
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Hull survey was done on haul out and all visible stringers were sounded as well as the hull. No issues.
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Originally Posted by nodestination
I had MT34 1973. It is plywood/balsa boat. Every 5 feet, there are support posts - from inside they may look good, but need to check the bottom. I spend a year in work yard to rebuild that boat. Check the raw water pump. Is easy to take off and see if is gear or U shape finger driven. If U shape then replace. $600. Fresh water pump $120. my shaft was bronze and shows oxidation(pink spots). replace with stainless- $650. No need to drop the rudder It does have a hole. So much to list of what I did, but at the end was a good solid boat.
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02-19-2018, 04:57 PM
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#40
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City: Puyallup, WA
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A couple pics of our trip from Tacoma to Bell Harbor. Cold but fun trip
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