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Old 09-08-2019, 07:59 AM   #1
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Port of Brunswick closed

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Old 09-08-2019, 08:38 AM   #2
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The new reports indicate the vessel was "listing"!!! Looks more like it is sitting on its side in shallow water. Was this car carrier somehow totally out of the channel and just ran out of water? Hard to believe.
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Captian is going to get a severe spanking over this one.
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Old 09-08-2019, 09:16 AM   #4
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I thought maybe Dorian could have shoaled in the channel or something, but the satellite (not current) image of the area doesn't look like there is potential for that. It is sitting out in the middle.

Timeline shows stop from 11.7kn to zero over an 11 minute period.

Weird.
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Cargo shift?
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I thought maybe Dorian could have shoaled in the channel or something, but the satellite (not current) image of the area doesn't look like there is potential for that. It is sitting out in the middle.

Timeline shows stop from 11.7kn to zero over an 11 minute period.

Weird.
I had the same thought. Normally there would seem to be plenty of water there.
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Old 09-08-2019, 09:25 AM   #7
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I see an OOPSIE on the track history.....

EDIT: OOPS! (me) I was looking at the wrong area. That one looks like a maneuvering course change near port.

New image added below it as current location in St. Simons Sound. Can't tell much from that.
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:57 AM   #8
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Reported disabled and fire aboard.....Kind of early for blame to be speculated... 4 crewmmbers still missing. Had 23 crew and pilot aboard
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Probably decreased ballast for shallow water in port. Not the first time a car carrier screwed up the ballast management.
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Probably decreased ballast for shallow water in port. That reduced stability and it has a whole lot of windage above the water line.

Is that exhaust smoke from diesels on their side? Or fire smoke?
yes, she was on fire.
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Closeup and more story.

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The new reports indicate the vessel was "listing"!!! Looks more like it is sitting on its side in shallow water. Was this car carrier somehow totally out of the channel and just ran out of water? Hard to believe.
USCG announced the boat was "listing heavily." Might want to take a closer look. Reports said 2 ships were passing at the time. Maybe one was hogging the channel?
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My earlier post was meant in jest. I'm sure there is a lot more to this story. I had no idea until now that there were missing persons. Hope all is found safe. I was under the impression that all aboard were rescued.
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Live here. Ship was outbound at a rather sharp starboard turn in the channel. Another RoRo, Emerald Ace, was inbound at the same moment. Emerald Ace was going 15+ knots. Golden Ray was at 13. That’s a lot of closing speed in a very narrow and tricky part of the Brunswick port channel.

It appears that Golden Ray had to make a very sharp starboard turn to avoid. Did cargo shift? Perhaps.

Brunswick port was closed until Thursday evening after Dorian. There were six ships at anchor waiting to enter. RoRo port can handle only three. Bulk port two. Golden Ray sat out there for two days. Were they in a rush to make up time? Also, it was at the port for only seven hours. That’s an awfully short stop. Maybe a combination of several factors, which these incidents tend to be.

Obviously, I don’t know what happened to cause this, but I’ve been watching these things come and go for decades, and have been in and out of the sound countless times, and something looks off to me. In the end, four poor guys are missing, the port is closed and now oil is spilling, which will be an issue because the Georgia DNR did not deploy booms first thing this morning.

And again ships pile up at the sea buoy waiting to come in. Four out there right now. Who knows how long the port could be closed. They sure aren’t righting this thing anytime soon. Although it is currently resting on its side just south of the channel, mere yards from green 19.

Boats, not ships, may come and go as long as they stay .5 miles from site.
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Lot of speculation on your part here. Pilot aboard on the transit.
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Lot of speculation on your part here. Pilot aboard on the transit.


Yes, I believe I made it clear I was speculating.

Yes, pilots were aboard both vessels.
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Thankfully, the four missing crew have been found and rescued.
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Thankfully, the four missing crew have been found and rescued.
Where were they found?
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Apparently that was incorrect information. The Coast Guard has heard tapping from inside the hull but they don’t know if it’s from one person or more. They have suspended rescue efforts for the night.
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