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08-25-2018, 08:36 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Saugatuck MI
Vessel Name: Odelay
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Originally Posted by markpierce
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Couldn't agree more!
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08-25-2018, 09:38 AM
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Senior Member
City: Carefree, AZ and Ft. Myers Beach, FL
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Vessel Model: 1990 49' Albin
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Like them or not, "get" them or not, make fun of them or not, they are amazing lake/day boats. And they are absolutely dominating market share. You can still get a "mini van" style, but most are leaning more toward somewhere between an SUV and a performance car if you want to make a car analogy.
This is worth 60 seconds: Regarding where the smaller, recreational boating industry is going, there is a great article here: https://boatingindustry.com/top-stor...as-she-goes-2/
Most (notice I did not say all) people who do not "get" the appeal of these newer tri-toons have simply not had the opportunity to spend time on one. 10 minutes on one will likely change your mind.
Here's a quote from the article: "....the once humble pontoon has completely replaced the formerly ubiquitous fiberglass runabout as the core of North America’s boating culture"
Personally, I had ZERO interest in them. I mean ZERO!!!!! A bored salesperson at an in-water boat show convinced me to get on board. 5 minutes later I wanted one. 2 years later I owned one.
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08-25-2018, 08:16 PM
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#43
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City: Long Neck, DE
Vessel Model: Robalo R265
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Just don't confuse your purchase with a boat. I suppose a pontoon is a device that serves a purpose for some.
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08-25-2018, 08:35 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
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Good news for a lot of people....they don't have to register their non-boats.... 
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08-25-2018, 08:36 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wudenboat
Just don't confuse your purchase with a boat. I suppose a pontoon is a device that serves a purpose for some.
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A pontoon is a boat as much as any other. If you don't believe so, then guess you don't believe any Catamaran is either. Why do people have to be so condescending against any boats unlike theirs? I'm sure there are happy pontoon boat and tritoon boat owners who wouldn't think yours is much of a boat but hopefully they wouldn't say that.
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08-26-2018, 05:27 AM
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Member
City: Long Neck, DE
Vessel Model: Robalo R265
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Pontoon? Boat?
I really did not intend to start a diatribe against pontoons on a trawler forum. Some of my best friends own pontoons. In my experience, on Rehoboth and Indian River bays, pontoons are by far in the majority. They make great party barges. However, in my opinion, pontoon drivers here appear to be hazards to navigation. Most boat captains I know abhor them. They are typically driven by impaired weekend warriors. DNREC registers them as boats, but, that's what you get from bureaucrats. Pontoons have their place in society, just please, don't describe them as boats.
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08-26-2018, 05:42 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. W et al...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/boat Definition of boat
plural boats 1 a : a small vessel for travel on water
b : ship
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https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/boat
boat
noun
- 1A small vessel for travelling over water, propelled by oars, sails, or an engine.
‘a fishing boat’
as modifier ‘a boat trip’
1.1 A vessel of any size, especially a large one. ‘those newly arriving here by boat or plane’
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/boat
boat
[boht]
See more synonyms for boat on Thesaurus.comnoun - a vessel for transport by water, constructed to provide buoyancy by excluding water and shaped to give stability and permit propulsion.
- a small ship, generally for specialized use: a fishing boat.
- a small vessel carried for use by a large one, as a lifeboat:
NO other way to describe pontoons/tritoons. Like it or not,they ARE boats. Now, IF you can find any other accepted definition, I will retract this post.
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08-26-2018, 06:16 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
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These are the only true boats in my neck of the woods .... 
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08-26-2018, 06:45 AM
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Member
City: Long Neck, DE
Vessel Model: Robalo R265
Join Date: May 2017
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Pontoon? Boat?
There's always some schoolmarm out there spoiling the fun.
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08-26-2018, 07:19 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Mr. W. Given that I have provided, pretty well, universally accepted definitions of a boat that appear to be unacceptable in your view, what would YOU call these vessels? The "schoolmarm" is curious...
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08-26-2018, 07:23 AM
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Member
City: Long Neck, DE
Vessel Model: Robalo R265
Join Date: May 2017
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Pontoon? Boat?
Dear Mr RT Firefly, check your Webster's.
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08-26-2018, 07:41 AM
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#52
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
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08-26-2018, 09:23 AM
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Senior Member
City: Carefree, AZ and Ft. Myers Beach, FL
Vessel Name: Sea-N-Stars
Vessel Model: 1990 49' Albin
Join Date: May 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wudenboat
Just don't confuse your purchase with a boat. I suppose a pontoon is a device that serves a purpose for some.
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If one subtracts the sales from those "devices" out of the stats for recent boat sales, then you would have a boat industry that is in serious decline, and that would be sad to see. It would seem these "devices" are serving a purpose for many.... as in keeping an industry alive.
It is interesting, too, that so many boat manufacturers are branching out into building these "devices" these days. You'd think they would stick to building boats. I'm guessing they are thankful for the sales of those "devices".
Does anyone have the number to "Device U.S."???? I need to call Boat U.S. and cancel my insurance policy on my device....... silly me.... I thought it was a boat. So did they. They cash our check every year.
Being recreational instead of commercial, I guess that makes it a "pleasure device" and that could lead squarely into a forum of a different nature. I think I'll just call it a boat, and hope you will forgive me.
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08-26-2018, 09:27 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
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Operators don't determine whether something is a boat or not... Whether they are good or bad captains.
Sound like a bit of "boat snobbery" to me.
I used to be that way when I was young and though I knew stuff.....
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08-26-2018, 10:29 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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What’s the matter w party barge?
But I agree w RT they are boats.
Limited special purpose boats.
And I agree w psneeld. Snobbery from trawlermen is so likely it could be a given.
Soon I suppose we’ll be calling outboard boats trawlers. But that’s far less likely as any fool can see.
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08-26-2018, 11:10 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
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Join Date: May 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wudenboat
Just don't confuse your purchase with a boat. I suppose a pontoon is a device that serves a purpose for some.
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If a pontoon boat isn’t a boat, then these boats probably aren’t boats either. We are a bit odd in the PNW.
https://youtu.be/VG8ARLq3m18
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08-26-2018, 11:24 AM
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#57
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ2Loop
I guess that makes it a "pleasure device" and that could lead squarely into a forum of a different nature.
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Wifey B: "Pleasure Device?"  
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08-26-2018, 11:55 AM
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#58
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Guru
City: Jupiter, Florida
Vessel Name: Black Eyed Susan
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42' Classic
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wudenboat
I really did not intend to start a diatribe against pontoons on a trawler forum. Some of my best friends own pontoons. In my experience, on Rehoboth and Indian River bays, pontoons are by far in the majority. They make great party barges. However, in my opinion, pontoon drivers here appear to be hazards to navigation. Most boat captains I know abhor them. They are typically driven by impaired weekend warriors. DNREC registers them as boats, but, that's what you get from bureaucrats. Pontoons have their place in society, just please, don't describe them as boats.
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Some serious flawed logic in your post. You think that pontoon BOATS are not BOATS because of the attributes of those that drive them. Pontoon BOAT drivers/captains are hazards and generally impaired people. Most of your boating friends hate them. You dislike pontoon BOATS so much you are think that their registration and acknowledgement that they are boats is a function of poor government. None of these is remotely related to the physical attributes of a boat. I'm still waiting for some logical reason why they should be excluded from being a boat... as a boat is defined. Something other than you not liking them or the people that drive them.
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08-26-2018, 12:29 PM
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#59
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Nothing against pontoon boats, but I just can't get past the image of 24 Lutheran ministers and a barbeque grill on Lake Wobegon.
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08-26-2018, 12:32 PM
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Member
City: Long Neck, DE
Vessel Model: Robalo R265
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 8
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Pontoon? Boat?
Enough already! I don't want to offend anyone. I agree with Nomad Willy. I'll accept pontoons as "limited special purpose boats" or party barges. In fact, I've attached a photo which clearly states my case. Just a typical day on Rehoboth Bay. 
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