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01-31-2017, 06:51 PM
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Senior Member
City: Chesapeake, VA
Vessel Name: Grace
Vessel Model: 1982 Grand Banks Motoryacht
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 134
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Converting V Berth to Rectangular Bed
GB 32 is my boat, wondering if anyone has converted a v-berth to a normal mattress shape? Experiences? Good idea?
Thanks
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01-31-2017, 10:59 PM
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Senior Member
City: Anacortes
Vessel Name: Salish Nomad
Vessel Model: American Tug 34
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kurt.reynolds
GB 32 is my boat, wondering if anyone has converted a v-berth to a normal mattress shape? Experiences? Good idea?
Thanks
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We would like to do the same. Hopefully there will be some interesting responses.
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American Tug 34-109
Home Port Anacortes Skyline & Sitka AK
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01-31-2017, 11:30 PM
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Guru
City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,444
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I have measured, drawn, made cardboard cutouts, pondered and scratched my chin to no avail. It's just too narrow at the forward end and the locker and head walls make it too short aft for anything to work. Taking out the head and locker just doesn't seem like a good option.
We actually considered enclosing the cockpit as a stateroom and putting in a door on the starboard side.....still on the table.
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What kind of boat is that?
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02-01-2017, 12:03 AM
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Memorial Member
City: Lafayette,LA
Vessel Name: Evangeline
Vessel Model: 35" Flybridge Sedan Senator
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 160
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That was a factor in our last search that ended with the 35" Senator. No V berth, I'm too tall. however the forward (only) state room queen bed has the front corners cut down some. It still works fine and the installation allows for a lot of storage drawers under the bed.
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02-01-2017, 12:15 AM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,329
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Knowing the IG32 and the GB similarities I couldn`t see it happening. Doubt it would work on a twin cabin GB 36, or IG36 2 cabin. They are made tight to get 2 cabins in.
My IG 36 is a single cabin with semi walkaround bed. Odd, but someone recently looked at converting it to a 2 cabin. Too hard.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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02-01-2017, 02:56 PM
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Veteran Member
City: chattanooga tn
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 45
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We change our former boat bow from a V to a marine queen. I was a Meridian 368. The level of the bed rose one and one feet to get to a wider space. Cost a lot to make it nice looking, but I do not think we could have sold it easily. It was basically for kids only. We bought a Californian with the queen already in place
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02-01-2017, 04:13 PM
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Senior Member
City: Jarrettsville, MD.
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 30' Rumrunner
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 157
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KR,
Take a look at the 30' Mainship Pilot II Rum runner from 2003 to 2008 on yacht world. Mainship installed a folding bed that is hinged and folded in two. You may be able to use this design on the GB depending on the measurements. Just a thought. Pretty good use of space.
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02-01-2017, 05:30 PM
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Senior Member
City: Chesapeake, VA
Vessel Name: Grace
Vessel Model: 1982 Grand Banks Motoryacht
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 134
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Thanks Everyone, a big help and some options to investigate.
Kurt
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02-01-2017, 07:31 PM
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Guru
City: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Vessel Name: Gumbo
Vessel Model: 2003 Monk 36
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,882
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I have seen some owners put a filler (Plywood and mattress) across the open space to make a bigger area to sleep on.
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02-02-2017, 08:58 AM
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,870
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Cofer
I have measured, drawn, made cardboard cutouts, pondered and scratched my chin to no avail..
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That seems like the logical thing to do. Make a template of a standard bed (there are actually several "standard sizes") and see if it fits. Remember to leave room to actually get in and out of the bed.
Now let's think about this - If a standard bed would have fit in the space, that's probably what the manufacturer would have put in there in the first place.
Every boat is a compromise and a V berth is a compromise to use the least space and allow extra space for other things like the galley or head.
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02-03-2017, 06:21 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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"Every boat is a compromise and a V berth is a compromise to use the least space and allow extra space for other things like the galley or head."
Fitted sheets are low cost and easier to put on than climbing up to a bigger square bed.
Most folks are wider at the shoulders than at the feet, so why give your feet space removed from the boat?
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02-03-2017, 06:33 AM
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Guru
City: Beaverton, Ontario
Vessel Name: Looking Glass
Vessel Model: Carver 370 Voyager
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,240
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We were recently at the Toronto boat show and there was a mattress company there that made custom boat mattresses, coil springs, not foam, any shape or size and could hinge the mattress in the middle. Looked great.
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02-03-2017, 07:07 AM
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,870
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LaBomba
We were recently at the Toronto boat show and there was a mattress company there that made custom boat mattresses, coil springs, not foam, any shape or size and could hinge the mattress in the middle. Looked great.
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There are several companies that do that. Look at the ads in the back of PassageMaker Magazine or do a web search.
Still, you're limited to what will actually fit in the space on your boat.
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02-03-2017, 09:33 AM
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Guru
City: AR
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,515
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Fwiw.... On my boats, lamps were mounted on the bulkhead at the aft end of the v-berth. It took me a while to realize they were reading lamps, put there because your head belongs at that end. There's plenty of room for two pairs of feet at the bow end and bulkheads at the aft end provide support to sit up and read...or watch the tv you've put in the bow.
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02-03-2017, 09:48 AM
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Guru
City: Philadelphia, PA
Vessel Name: Revel
Vessel Model: 1984 Fu Hwa 39
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,024
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Second the comments re: filling the space between the berths. Our 38' sailboat has that in a small degree. We made boards to span between the salon berths/bench seats in our smaller 27' sailboat. (Referred to as our SFB's (supplemental f**kin' boards.)
Look around at other similar length-challenged boats for ideas; someone's surely done it.
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02-03-2017, 10:38 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Hampton
Vessel Name: Saltwater Taffy
Vessel Model: Silverton 43
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 64
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Be careful about what you wish for.
A true "V" berth is easy to get in and out of and easy to make it up for sleeping with sheets, etc. A "V" that has had a filler in the space in-between now become much harder to get in and out of and to make it up for sleeping. It usually requires you to get into the bunk to fit the sheets under the peak and sides, etc. Having had a boat with the entire forepeak as a berth, I used to refer to getting out as the "V berth double back-flip". The fully encased "V" is better for snuggling, etc., but you can find good work arounds for those purposes in conventional "V" berths. As they say, "Everything on a boat is a compromise".
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02-03-2017, 10:56 AM
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Guru
City: AR
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul M
Be careful about what you wish for.
A true "V" berth is easy to get in and out of and easy to make it up for sleeping with sheets, etc. A "V" that has had a filler in the space in-between now become much harder to get in and out of and to make it up for sleeping. It usually requires you to get into the bunk to fit the sheets under the peak and sides, etc. Having had a boat with the entire forepeak as a berth, I used to refer to getting out as the "V berth double back-flip". The fully encased "V" is better for snuggling, etc., but you can find good work arounds for those purposes in conventional "V" berths. As they say, "Everything on a boat is a compromise".
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The solution is SO simple...it just requires a little creativity: Make (or have made) 2-3 fitted sheets just for the center cushion. Make up each side and drop it in. That makes it possible to remove the center cushion before getting out of bed. Top sheets and blankets don't have to be tucked, just large enough to all the body parts that need covering .You can stuff the edges between the mattress and hull on each side to keep in place if either of you is a restless enough sleeper to warrant it. Socks keep feet warm.
Or...you COULD just zip a couple of sleeping bags together...unzip each side to get out of bed...roll 'em up and stick 'em behind pillows to "make" the bed in the morning. However, this may only be a cold weather solution.
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02-03-2017, 11:05 AM
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Senior Member
City: Norfolk, VA
Vessel Model: Bayliner 3870
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 308
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
Most folks are wider at the shoulders than at the feet, so why give your feet space removed from the boat?
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Personally I view it not so much as more room for the feet, but (and I'm assuming ) that the style of bed being talked about would allow easier access into and out of.
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02-03-2017, 06:02 PM
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Guru
City: Philadelphia, PA
Vessel Name: Revel
Vessel Model: 1984 Fu Hwa 39
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,024
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Second the comment re: harder to get out of a filled V berth. I added grab handles to the overhead in the sailboat. Few V's actually have much space available to make them in comfort anyway.
Our center double does not offer easy footing alongside for making it up.
That's what flexible crewmates are for!
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02-04-2017, 06:29 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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Remember any berth for two folks may eventually require a "bundeling board" as folks of different mass are moved differently when its Rock & Roll time.
On sailboats its easier as usually folks can wedge against the board and part of the boat.
On a motor boat that has no heeling bias only narrowing the bunk with pillows or clothes will give a nights sleep underway in less than calm conditions.
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