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05-07-2014, 08:53 AM
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#41
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Originally Posted by obthomas
Calm down Capt. Bill or you become the a-hole here.
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Yeah you're right, what was I thinking. Purposely trying to further embarrass some one when they are in the middle of an already embarrassing situation is a perfectly reasonable thing to suggest.
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05-07-2014, 09:00 AM
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#42
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City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
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Although not a perfect science, the best odds of not running aground is to follow a decent size sailboat. Oops, I can't believe I said that.
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05-07-2014, 09:16 AM
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#43
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hmason
Although not a perfect science, the best odds of not running aground is to follow a decent size sailboat. Oops, I can't believe I said that.
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Best odds is to rent a slip at a very deep marina and never move the boat.
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05-07-2014, 09:23 AM
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#44
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City: Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2012
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The captain could have asked all the fat people to go tot he stern so it raises the bow......just say'n. Seems to work on tiny boats.
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05-07-2014, 09:25 AM
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#45
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City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
Yeah you're right, what was I thinking. Purposely trying to further embarrass some one when they are in the middle of an already embarrassing situation is a perfectly reasonable thing to suggest.
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Sooo, tell me Capt.Bill - You know if the captain of the grounded boat is on TF? He may be - but I doubt it! Anyway... sht happens - in more ways than one!
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05-07-2014, 09:27 AM
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#46
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City: SF Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambler
The captain could have asked all the fat people to go tot he stern so it raises the bow......just say'n. Seems to work on tiny boats.
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05-07-2014, 09:32 AM
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#47
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City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Greetings,
The logical progression from post #'s 42 and 43 is not to get a boat at all. NOT HAPPENING! I'll take my chances. I also forgot, I had a soft grounding going north somewhere around Daytona. That time I was NOT paying attention. The boat simply slowed to a stop.
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05-07-2014, 09:35 AM
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#48
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Sooo, tell me Capt.Bill - You know if the captain of the grounded boat is on TF? He may be - but I doubt it! Anyway... sht happens - in more ways than one!
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I have no idea if he/she is on TF. The suggestion was to "call" them. I took that to mean on the radio at the time it was happening. Perhaps I misread it and you meant on the phone after the fact. Not call them out in TF.
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05-07-2014, 09:48 AM
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#49
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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" Capt.Bill - Wrong side of bed today?"
No
" Sorry, I don't mean to assault your"
You didn't. I'm just not a big fan of kicking people when they are down. Or in the middle of kicking themselves.
"beware... much of what I fun about is spot-on!"
Anything is possible.
" BTW – my mind seldom stops working!"
Well that is obvious.
"You or anyone else can poke fun at me too, or you can say what you like about me."
Same here.
" simply love to debate!"
I've been told I fall into that category too.
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05-07-2014, 10:00 AM
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#50
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City: SF Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
" Capt.Bill - Wrong side of bed today?"
No
" Sorry, I don't mean to assault your"
You didn't. I'm just not a big fan of kicking people when they are down. Or in the middle of kicking themselves.
"beware... much of what I fun about is spot-on!"
Anything is possible.
" BTW – my mind seldom stops working!"
Well that is obvious.
"You or anyone else can poke fun at me too, or you can say what you like about me."
Same here.
" simply love to debate!"
I've been told I fall into that category too.
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- Have Good Day! - Art
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05-07-2014, 10:41 AM
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#51
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City: Hotel, CA
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The only thing that comes close to surprising me so far in this thread is folks thinking it odd for the SeaRay being able to pull him free. Tow boats are similar in size, obviously better equipped and with more horsepower.
Physics in action is fun to watch.
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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05-07-2014, 10:52 AM
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#52
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
The only thing that comes close to surprising me so far in this thread is folks thinking it odd for the SeaRay being able to pull him free. Tow boats are similar in size, obviously better equipped and with more horsepower.
Physics in action is fun to watch.
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I've seen 13 foot Rib's pull 40' boats before. In fact once saw someone do it on their own boat. Very soft grounding but they didn't want to risk props. So, they used their crane, put their Rib in the water behind their boat, hooked up a tow line and gently eased it off. They started engines and reversed boat once they'd moved about 10 feet.
There was talk about using his thrusters to move, but any boat has much more power than them. If he's on soft enough doesn't take much to pull. If it's a hard deep grounding, then not even the tow boats have a chance.
Oh and please don't remind me of physics. Thought I was over that when I completed my course in college.
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05-07-2014, 11:50 AM
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#53
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City: Tuckerton, NJ
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I had a hard sand grounding a few years ago. I hit the thruster think I could wiggle off no dice the thruster was in the air! I ran aground in an area well known to me and I ignored my watch, my wife! 2 props and a shaft latter after a long tow and I'll never ignore my watch again. Hard sand can be almost as damaging as concrete.
Bill
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05-07-2014, 12:46 PM
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#54
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City: Benicia CA
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
The only thing that comes close to surprising me so far in this thread is folks thinking it odd for the SeaRay being able to pull him free.
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Surprising to me also, as nobody even knows the size of the boat! OP never mentioned.
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05-07-2014, 02:22 PM
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#55
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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WATCH the depth sounder closely
What dept sounder?
Nothing beats a nice stiff 2 inch or so pole , with 1 ft stripes painted on .
Really helps finding where the drop off might be , so where to try for.
IF kedging off its nice to know you are heading for deeper water.
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05-07-2014, 02:38 PM
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#56
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City: Powell River, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nsail
Surprising to me also, as nobody even knows the size of the boat! OP never mentioned.
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It appears to be a 68' Ocean Alexander MY.
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05-07-2014, 03:08 PM
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#57
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Senior Member
City: Benicia CA
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 499
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy
It appears to be a 68' Ocean Alexander MY.
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I saw that you posted that before, but where did that info come from? Did I miss something?
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05-07-2014, 03:14 PM
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#58
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City: West Coast
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
Yeah you're right, what was I thinking. Purposely trying to further embarrass some one when they are in the middle of an already embarrassing situation is a perfectly reasonable thing to suggest.
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Especially when they go out of their way to make it tough to read. More trouble than its worth.
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05-07-2014, 03:41 PM
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#59
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nsail
I saw that you posted that before, but where did that info come from? Did I miss something?
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I just looked at the picture provided. I may be wrong.
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05-07-2014, 04:48 PM
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#60
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Senior Member
City: Benicia CA
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 499
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy
I just looked at the picture provided. I may be wrong.
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A picture doesn't even show up on my system. Now I understand. And I'll bet you're right as I don't think you've ever been wrong about anything you've ever posted (that's a compliment, I'm not being sarcastic), unlike many other posters (myself included) that seem to be full of it from time to time.
P.S. You even know that hypocrite is spelled with an "e"!. Funny as hell! (OTDE visitors will know what that means)
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